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From: "Jₑₙₛ Gustedt" <jens.gustedt@inria.fr>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [musl] [C23 new stdlib 2/4] C23: add the memalignment function
Date: Thu, 25 May 2023 16:05:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230525160501.787872b2@inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230525130723.GH4163@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

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on Thu, 25 May 2023 09:07:23 -0400 you (Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>)
wrote:

> > So you want me to use the ctz and clz interfaces from the internal
> > atomics for the implementation of <stdbit.h>? Are they not overkill
> > for this simple purpose? (I mean they are meant to be atomic,
> > arent't they?)  
> 
> No, I think you're mixing up code which is part of musl and code which
> is (included as) part of the application. atomic.h is a musl
> implementation detail and is not even present for application code
> included from stdbit.h to use.

I am not clear to which question you are answering "no". Fact is that
these functions are used for `ffs` and friends, so they are the
natural candidates to base the implementation upon. (`ffs` cannot be
used directly because they have intefaces with signed integers.)

I'd very much like to avoid to reinvent the wheel, here, and in the
internal code that I have looked at I have not detected much which
would be specific for atomics. But maybe I am overlooking something,
thus the question.

> See NRK's follow-up. If pure header-only implementations of these
> interfaces met the requirements of the standard, I could see a good
> argument for having implementations there. But if they require
> external functions, I'm not clear on why it makes sense to implement
> inline versions in the headers rather than just letting the compiler
> do its own transformations to inline if/when it wants. This was a path
> glibc went down a long time ago with "bits/string2.h", putting gobs of
> attempted-optimized code in public headers that was suppressing gcc's
> builtin, much better optimizations for the same functions via its
> __builtin_*. I don't think we should repeat that.

Yes, thanks, I understand that strategy much better now.

Thanks
Jₑₙₛ

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-25 14:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-24 19:38 [musl] [C23 new stdlib 0/4] changes in stdlib.h Jens Gustedt
2023-05-24 19:38 ` [musl] [C23 new stdlib 1/4] C23: add the new interfaces free_sized and free_aligned_sized for stdlib.h Jens Gustedt
2023-05-24 21:31   ` Rich Felker
2023-05-25  9:38     ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-25 12:57       ` Rich Felker
2023-05-24 19:38 ` [musl] [C23 new stdlib 2/4] C23: add the memalignment function Jens Gustedt
2023-05-24 21:28   ` Rich Felker
2023-05-24 22:12     ` Rich Felker
2023-05-25  9:17       ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-25  9:16     ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-25  9:42       ` NRK
2023-05-25 13:07       ` Rich Felker
2023-05-25 14:05         ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt [this message]
2023-05-25 14:34           ` Rich Felker
2023-05-25 15:22             ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-06-01 13:35       ` Alexander Monakov
2023-06-01 19:08         ` Rich Felker
2023-06-02  8:07           ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-06-02  8:03         ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-06-02  8:37           ` Alexander Monakov
2023-05-24 19:38 ` [musl] [C23 new stdlib 3/4] C23: implement the new strfrom[dfl] functions Jens Gustedt
2023-05-24 21:42   ` Rich Felker
2023-05-24 19:38 ` [musl] [C23 new stdlib 4/4] C23: add the new include guard to stdlib.h Jens Gustedt

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