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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: "Jₑₙₛ Gustedt" <jens.gustedt@inria.fr>
Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [musl] [C23 printf 2/3] C23: implement the wN length specifiers for printf
Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 14:00:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230530180032.GY4163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230530172832.GX4163@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 01:28:33PM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 08:46:36AM +0200, Jₑₙₛ Gustedt wrote:
> > Rich,
> > 
> > on Mon, 29 May 2023 21:48:22 -0400 you (Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>)
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 09:21:55PM +0200, Jₑₙₛ Gustedt wrote:
> > > > Rich,
> > > > 
> > > > on Mon, 29 May 2023 11:46:40 -0400 you (Rich Felker
> > > > <dalias@libc.org>) wrote:
> > > >   
> > > > > On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 09:14:13AM +0200, Jₑₙₛ Gustedt wrote:  
> > >  [...]  
> > >  [...]  
> > >  [...]  
> > > > > 
> > > > > OK I think I can communicate better with code than natural
> > > > > language text, so here's a diff, completely untested, of what I
> > > > > had in mind.  
> > > > 
> > > > that's ... ugh ... not so prety, I think
> > > > 
> > > > In my current version I track the desired width, if there is w
> > > > specifier, and then do the adjustments after the loop. That takes
> > > > indeed care of undefined character sequences.
> > > > 
> > > > I find that much better readable, and also easier to extend (later
> > > > there comes the `wf` case and the `128`, and perhaps some day
> > > > `256`)  
> > > 
> > > It sounds like the core issue is that you don't like the state machine
> > > approach to how musl's printf processes format specifiers.
> > 
> > It is well suited for simple grammars, I agree with that, but here the
> > grammar is becomming more complex. Be it just for the fact that you'd
> > have to enlargen the set of possible values to match decimal digits.
> 
> I don't think it's really any more complex. It's just a few gratuitous
> aliases that have a very small number of edge paths. The wf ones
> almost entirely collapse with the w ones, and if we wanted to get rid
> of the gratuitous separate hh/h loading, they'd entirely collapse. But
> the version I posted as code is probably enough smaller to be
> perferable. I guess I should take a look at that and see...

Ah, now I remember why we handle h/hh despite them seeing useless.
They're needed for %n, and once you distinguish them for that, there's
hardly any point in trying to treat them the same as bare elsewhere.

Rich

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-30 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-26 19:41 [musl] [C23 printf 0/3] Jens Gustedt
2023-05-26 19:41 ` [musl] [C23 printf 1/3] C23: implement the b and B printf specifiers Jens Gustedt
2023-05-26 19:41 ` [musl] [C23 printf 2/3] C23: implement the wN length specifiers for printf Jens Gustedt
2023-05-26 20:31   ` Rich Felker
2023-05-26 20:51     ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-26 21:03       ` Rich Felker
2023-05-29  7:14         ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-29 15:46           ` Rich Felker
2023-05-29 19:21             ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-30  1:48               ` Rich Felker
2023-05-30  6:46                 ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-30 17:28                   ` Rich Felker
2023-05-30 18:00                     ` Rich Felker [this message]
2023-05-31  7:59                     ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-06-02 14:29                 ` Rich Felker
2023-06-02 14:55                   ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-06-02 15:07                     ` Rich Felker
2023-05-26 19:41 ` [musl] [C23 printf 3/3] C23: implement the wfN length modifiers " Jens Gustedt
2023-05-26 20:33   ` Rich Felker
2023-05-26 21:00     ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
     [not found] <cover.1685429467.git.Jens.Gustedt@inria.fr>
2023-05-30  6:55 ` [musl] [C23 printf 2/3] C23: implement the wN length specifiers " Jens Gustedt
2023-06-02 14:38   ` Rich Felker
2023-06-02 15:09     ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-06-02 15:16       ` Rich Felker
2023-06-02 15:37         ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-31 14:04 [musl] [C23 printf 0/3] to be replaced Jens Gustedt
2023-05-31 14:04 ` [musl] [C23 printf 2/3] C23: implement the wN length specifiers for printf Jens Gustedt

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