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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: "Jₑₙₛ Gustedt" <jens.gustedt@inria.fr>
Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [musl] [C23 128 bit 4/4] C23: implement proper support for int128_t and uint128_t
Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 10:47:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230531144710.GE4163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230531164254.7a867552@inria.fr>

On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 04:42:54PM +0200, Jₑₙₛ Gustedt wrote:
> Rich,
> 
> on Wed, 31 May 2023 10:27:44 -0400 you (Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>)
> wrote:
> 
> > (This was the whole reason _BitInt was added, no?)
> 
> No, not at all. These are added to have
> 
>  - types for any width, not only multiples of 8
>  - potentially have types that have thousands of bits (clang seems to
>    be keen to do so)
>  - types that have different rules for conversions, in particular no promotion.
> 
> These are explicitly not allowed to be used for the [u]intXXX_t types.
> 
> They only appear in the patches I propose as a means to encode number
> literals of the appropriate width. These are used with casts, such
> that they end up with the correct types.

OK, well the motivations behind _BitInt are really aside from the key
question here, which is whether intN_t wider than intmax_t is
permitted. As I read the spec, it's still not. And even if it were
permitted, I don't see where an int128_t type is mandated. J.5.6 even
gives __int128 as an example of an "other arithmetic type" that's not
an "extended integer type" by virtue of not aligning with the intmax_t
requirements.

Rich

      reply	other threads:[~2023-05-31 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-31 14:15 [musl] [C23 128 bit 0/4] implement the library part of 128 bit support Jens Gustedt
2023-05-31 14:15 ` [musl] [C23 128 bit 1/4] add an emulation for 128 bit arithmetic as needed for C library support Jens Gustedt
2023-05-31 14:15 ` [musl] [C23 128 bit 2/4] C23: implement w128 and wf128 support for printf Jens Gustedt
2023-05-31 14:15 ` [musl] [C23 128 bit 3/4] C23: implement w128 and wf128 for scanf and similar Jens Gustedt
2023-05-31 14:15 ` [musl] [C23 128 bit 4/4] C23: implement proper support for int128_t and uint128_t Jens Gustedt
2023-05-31 14:27   ` Rich Felker
2023-05-31 14:29     ` Rich Felker
2023-05-31 14:36     ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-31 14:41       ` Rich Felker
2023-05-31 14:55         ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-31 14:57           ` Rich Felker
2023-05-31 15:07             ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-31 15:14               ` Rich Felker
2023-05-31 15:37                 ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-31 15:40                   ` Rich Felker
2023-05-31 15:56                     ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-31 16:30                       ` Alexander Monakov
2023-05-31 16:58                         ` Jens Gustedt
2023-05-31 17:03                           ` Rich Felker
2023-05-31 17:09                           ` Alexander Monakov
2023-06-01  7:24                             ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-31 14:42     ` Jₑₙₛ Gustedt
2023-05-31 14:47       ` Rich Felker [this message]

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