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From: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
To: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>
Cc: Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de>, musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: getpass() feature test macro
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 12:01:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250710160130.GW1827@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250710175654.1013755f@windsurf>

On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 05:56:54PM +0200, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> Hello Rich,
> 
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 11:54:18 -0400
> Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:
> 
> > > Hm, thanks but it still isn't clear to me. If the issue is in the gcr
> > > code base, which needs to define another feature macro, I'd like to
> > > have some compelling evidence that the code is incorrect and needs to
> > > define some other feature macro to use getpass().  
> > 
> > It's not so much "needs to define another feature macro" as "don't use
> > feature test macros to request strict POSIX if that's not what you
> > want".
> > 
> > It's vaguely possible that this code was written to conform to SUSv2
> > (_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 or _POSIX_C_SOURCE=199506L), in which case that's
> > valid but just not a standard we support because it's so outdated. But
> > more likely, it's just written to the haphazard "use whatever random
> > stuff" principle, in which the right thing to do is not define any of
> > these FTMs.
> 
> Thanks, but I'm still confused. As it is today, gcr only defines
> _XOPEN_SOURCE and due to that, cannot access getpass() prototype when
> building against musl, causing a build failure. What is the solution
> that you suggest? *Not* defining any FTM will certainly not fix this,
> as musl only exposes the getpass() prototype if either _DEFAULT_SOURCE
> or _BSD_SOURCE is defined.

It's called _DEFAULT_SOURCE because it's what's exposed by default
(defined by default) if no more restrictive FTMs were already defined.

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-10 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-09 21:52 [musl] getpass() feature test macro Thomas Petazzoni
2025-07-09 22:20 ` Thorsten Glaser
2025-07-09 23:56   ` [musl] " Rich Felker
2025-07-10  7:55     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2025-07-10 15:54       ` Rich Felker
2025-07-10 15:56         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2025-07-10 16:01           ` Rich Felker [this message]
2025-07-10 16:13             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2025-07-10 16:40               ` Rich Felker
2025-07-11 19:16               ` Thorsten Glaser
2025-07-11  0:46     ` [musl] " Haelwenn (lanodan) Monnier
2025-07-11  0:58       ` Haelwenn (lanodan) Monnier
2025-07-11  1:18         ` A. Wilcox

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