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From: "A. Wilcox" <awilfox@adelielinux.org>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Removing glibc from the musl .2 ABI
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 08:13:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2d36174f-ae85-bcd2-1c71-10f50513b1a6@adelielinux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190717033735.GJ1506@brightrain.aerifal.cx>


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On 07/16/19 22:37, Rich Felker wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 06:58:38PM -0500, A. Wilcox wrote:
>> (Full disclosure: I am the principal author of gcompat.)
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Now that gcompat has matured, I was wondering if perhaps musl should
>> consider dropping the glibc ABI guarantees when the "2 ABI" lands.
>>
>> This would make the LFS64 symbol mess completely moot.
> 
> This is separate from the .2 ABI topic, but what would you think about
> removing glibc ABI-compat from the current .1 ABI and replacing it
> with enhanced gcompat? I was thinking ldso could load libgcompat
> instead of returning a reference to itself for DT_NEEDED referencing
> libc.so.6, and we could move all ABI-compat symbols into gcompat.
> 
> The reason I bring it up is that ripping out the LFS64
> unwantedly-linkable stuff while keeping it as ABI-only is looking like
> more of a pain than I expected.
> 
> Rich


We would be more than happy to work with you on that.

Would gcompat then become a runtime requirement for glibc apps on musl?
What would musl do if gcompat isn't installed on a system?  What about
things like libm and libdl, which I've seen some apps force DT_NEEDED
anyway when built against musl?

Just trying to make sure the community has a clear view of what this
looks like before we jump in.

Best,
--arw


-- 
A. Wilcox (awilfox)
Project Lead, Adélie Linux
https://www.adelielinux.org


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  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-17 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-11 23:58 A. Wilcox
2019-07-12  0:51 ` Khem Raj
2019-07-12  1:45 ` Rich Felker
2019-07-12  1:47   ` Rich Felker
2019-07-17  3:37 ` Rich Felker
2019-07-17 13:13   ` A. Wilcox [this message]
2019-07-17 15:11     ` Rich Felker
2019-07-17 18:10       ` A. Wilcox
2019-07-17 18:16         ` Rich Felker
2019-07-22 15:52           ` Rich Felker
2019-07-24 15:17             ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-07-24 16:02               ` Rich Felker
2019-07-24 16:33             ` James Y Knight
2019-07-24 17:36               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-07-24 21:31                 ` Rich Felker
2019-07-24 21:29               ` Rich Felker
2019-07-25 16:42                 ` James Y Knight
2019-07-25 20:03                   ` Rich Felker

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