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From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Linux-sh list <linux-sh@vger.kernel.org>, musl <musl@lists.openwall.com>
Subject: [musl] FDPIC on sh4?
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 04:31:00 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2d8878fa-c990-e187-9040-934cce908e7c@landley.net> (raw)

Is there any easy way to build FDPIC support for sh4 with-mmu? In theory ARM can
do it, so I tried editing the kconfig BINFMT_ELF_FDPIC dependencies in
fs/Kconfig.binfmt to move "SUPERH" out of the !MMU list and put it next to ARM,
switched on the FDPIC loader, and the build broke with:

fs/binfmt_elf_fdpic.o: in function `load_elf_fdpic_binary':
binfmt_elf_fdpic.c:(.text+0x1b44): undefined reference to
`elf_fdpic_arch_lay_out_mm'

Backstory: I want to test nommu under qemu, and my existing tests are all using
qemu-system-$TARGET builds with musl-libc toolchains built by musl-cross-make.

I have a nommu test environment on real (FPGA) hardware, using an sh2 fdpic
toolchain built from musl-cross-make using gcc 9.4.0, but that's not part of my
normal "cursor up and hit enter" fully automated regression testing that builds
and launches qemu instances with a prepared filesystem that launches tests from
the init script and does "expect" style processing on the serial console
connected to qemu's stdin/stdout.

Testing on the FPGA board requires repeatedly removing and inserting sd cards,
so I don't do it nearly as often, and right now that's my ONLY nommu test
environment.

I want to get a qemu-system-something running nommu. Since musl-libc only
supports fdpic, this limits my choices to the intersection of Linux's FDPIC support:

$ grep FDPIC -m1 -A3 fs/Kconfig.binfmt
config BINFMT_ELF_FDPIC
	bool "Kernel support for FDPIC ELF binaries"
	default y if !BINFMT_ELF
	depends on ARM || ((M68K || RISCV || SUPERH || XTENSA) && !MMU)

And gcc's FDPIC support:

$ dirname $(grep -irl fdpic gcc/config) | sort -u
gcc/config/arm
gcc/config/bfin
gcc/config/frv
gcc/config/sh

Ever since linux threw blackfin and frv overboard to lighten the load, this
means gcc can produce fdpic output for exactly two targets that Linux supports:
arm and superh. (No, riscv is not joining them. I emailed about
https://groups.google.com/a/groups.riscv.org/g/sw-dev/c/ZjYUJswknQ4/m/QnTEfur4BwAJ
yesterday and was told "Sadly that project didn't go beyond the ABI design
phase." so riscv-fdpic is _not_ currently in development.)

In theory arm can use the FDPIC loader on a with-mmu kernel, but the arm
configure doesn't have a way to combine "musl" with the magic
"uclinuxfdpiceabidoodahdoodah" blob because their matches keep looking like:
"arm*-*-uclinuxfdpiceabi" and "*-linux-musl*" which aren't compatible. (If that
first one didn't have the extra dash...) Alas arm-unknown-musl-uclinuxfdpiceabi
makes binutils go "checking target system type... Invalid configuration
`armv7m-linux-musl-uclinuxfdpiceabi': machine `armv7m-linux-musl' not recognized".

So I was thinking "maybe I can build an sh4 kernel with an sh4 compiler, and
build a userspace with the sh2eb compiler" (this is unlikely to work because
every sh4 system I've ever used is little endian and the j-core guys
inexplicably chose big endian, but I can burn that bridge when I come to it...)
But that's how I hit the "enabling FDPIC on with-mmu only works with arm,
nothing else" issue above. And that's incompatible with selecting musl support.

Rob

PS. the sh2 fdpic toolchain in musl-cross-make doesn't reproduce with the newest
"supported" gcc (11.2.0) because:

In file included from libstdc++-v3/libsupc++/eh_call.cc:32:
libstdc++-v3/../libgcc/unwind-pe.h: In function 'const unsigned char*
read_encoded_value_with_base(unsigned char, _Unwind_Ptr, const unsigned char*,
_Unwind_Ptr*)':
libstdc++-v3/../libgcc/unwind-pe.h:270:25: error: '_Unwind_gnu_Find_got' was not
declared in this scope
  270 |               result += _Unwind_gnu_Find_got ((_Unwind_Ptr) u);

Which has been broken ever since musl-cross-make's newest last commit almost 2
years ago.

             reply	other threads:[~2024-02-15 10:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-15 10:31 Rob Landley [this message]
2024-02-15 13:49 ` Rich Felker
2024-02-15 14:53   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-02-15 16:47     ` Rich Felker
2024-02-16 12:25       ` Rob Landley
2024-02-16 18:32         ` Rob Landley

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