From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/882 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: aep Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: make -i with linux-pam Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 22:24:47 +0200 Message-ID: <4da7637098a099e65cafb69a43dec4f0@exys.org> References: <20120513205824.16f08160@newbook> <20120514041106.GS163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20120514170931.5ebe58cf@newbook> <20120516032449.GU163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <77353a536cf4831c07f838aa74905e7c@exys.org> <20120521192859.GG163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1337631784 7419 80.91.229.3 (21 May 2012 20:23:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 20:23:04 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: musl-return-883-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Mon May 21 22:23:03 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SWZ88-0007xa-R9 for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Mon, 21 May 2012 22:23:00 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 26581 invoked by uid 550); 21 May 2012 20:23:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 26573 invoked from network); 21 May 2012 20:23:00 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20120521192859.GG163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> X-Sender: aep@exys.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.5.4 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:882 Archived-At: On Mon, 21 May 2012 15:28:59 -0400, Rich Felker wrote: > Not sure what you mean here... Are you talking about using these > files > to kill processes that users left running after logging out? Or what? haha, no. I was more refering to the fact that i'm pretty sure no one _wants_ utmp. It's just that you need it around for compiling code from last century. But yeah, dropping in glibc seems like more work then just implementing it. > -lutil is part of POSIX; in musl it's an empty .a file. I'm not sure > it would be a good idea to replace libutil with something else, > because programs using stuff from POSIX that's allowed to need -lutil > might add -lutil to the link command line. How does that work with sysvinit? And a couple of utils are going to be broken too. hence i was wondering about an approach to get these working without actually having to have that stone age functionality in musl itself.