From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/1615 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luca Barbato Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] makefile: add silent rules Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 02:10:36 +0200 Message-ID: <502D8BFC.8030601@gentoo.org> References: <1345133887-4041-1-git-send-email-lu_zero@gentoo.org> <30247.132.241.65.36.1345158201.squirrel@lavabit.com> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1345162260 19048 80.91.229.3 (17 Aug 2012 00:11:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 00:11:00 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-1616-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Fri Aug 17 02:11:01 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1T2A9R-0007ED-Dk for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 02:10:57 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 21823 invoked by uid 550); 17 Aug 2012 00:10:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 21784 invoked from network); 17 Aug 2012 00:10:55 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120801 Thunderbird/14.0 In-Reply-To: <30247.132.241.65.36.1345158201.squirrel@lavabit.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5a1pre Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:1615 On 08/17/2012 01:03 AM, idunham@lavabit.com wrote: >> make V=0 to enable them >> --- > Remind me what the _benefit_ is? An in between make -s and normal make. > I remember there were several advantages to standard full output, so the > verdict was that *if* they're added, they get disabled by default. It is disabled by default. > While this patch does respect that, I'd like to know whether there's a > better reason for the added ugliness than "Some folks don't like to see > what's happening"... It is faster, you see the warnings w/out useless clutter. You do not care about seeing what the clean target is doing most of the times and such. > Also, I note that you're also making a couple other changes: RM, LN, and > INSTALL... > Last time, Rich said he didn't see a reason to use $(RM), since rm is > POSIX. Same can be said of ln/$(LN). > install appears (per man 1p) to not be POSIX, but is fairly widespread. I > can see this helping with the occasional broken version of install. It is used for the quiet machinery > Patch 3/3 is the most valuable part of the series, I think. > I can see merging that, and patch 2/3 is trivial. Indeed, but since I did the work and since at least for few people is useful I tried to rebase it. >> -include config.mak > Umm.... Is this an accident? Uhm? " -include config.mak" is just that line, see the leading space. > Axe this part (see above) > See above. It is part of the quiet rule. lu