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From: Abdoulaye Walsimou GAYE <awg@embtoolkit.org>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] Add basic sys/cdefs.h found on most unix
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 02:13:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50833E3B.1070003@embtoolkit.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121020233852.GS254@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On 10/21/2012 01:38 AM, Rich Felker wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 01:38:52AM +0200, Abdoulaye Walsimou GAYE wrote:
>> On 10/21/2012 01:18 AM, Isaac Dunham wrote:
>>> On Sat, 20 Oct 2012 22:15:43 +0200
>>> Abdoulaye Walsimou Gaye <awg@embtoolkit.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Abdoulaye Walsimou Gaye <awg@embtoolkit.org>
>>>> ---
>>>>   include/sys/cdefs.h |   22 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>   1 file changed, 22 insertions(+)
>>>>   create mode 100644 include/sys/cdefs.h
>>> I'm pretty sure that the last three times sys/cdefs.h was proposed,
>>> it was rejected.
>> Unfortunately many packages (wrongly?) use to rely on macros defined there,
> I've found it's really very few; an equivalent sys/cdefs.h does not
> exist on most systems. It was never intended for use by applications;
> it's an internal part of glibc (and perhaps also some BSDs?) used for
> handling backwardsness like pre-ANSI C compilers (abstracting const
> away as __const, or abstracting away prototypes with __P()) and
> optional use of GCC-specific features.

But applications borrowed from systems internal and ported to others
systems tend to use these macros (libtirpc, libbsd come in mind).
Major BSD systems have it (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, PCBSD), it not
a reason to have it on linux systems but it helps/simplifies packages porting
from these OS.

>
> For things like 'extern "C"', there's no reason to use sys/cdefs.h;
> the just writing the code it expands to inline is much more
> clear/informative and provides better performance as a nice side
> effect.
>
>> sometimes indirectly via <features.h>.
> I don't see what you mean by this.
>
> Rich

some applications use <features.h> to get macros defined in <sys/cdefs.h>
as on glibc, eglibc, uClibc <features.h> have a #include <sys/cdefs.h>

cheers,
AWG


  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-21  0:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-20 20:15 [PATCH 0/4] Import <netinet/ether.h> features from NetBSD Abdoulaye Walsimou Gaye
2012-10-20 20:15 ` [PATCH 1/4] Build system: give ability to install lib/crt*.o files separately Abdoulaye Walsimou Gaye
2012-10-20 23:49   ` Rich Felker
2012-10-20 20:15 ` [PATCH 2/4] Add basic sys/cdefs.h found on most unix Abdoulaye Walsimou Gaye
2012-10-20 23:18   ` Isaac Dunham
2012-10-20 23:38     ` Abdoulaye Walsimou GAYE
2012-10-20 23:38       ` Rich Felker
2012-10-21  0:13         ` Abdoulaye Walsimou GAYE [this message]
2012-10-21  0:11           ` Rich Felker
2012-10-21  0:38             ` Abdoulaye Walsimou GAYE
2012-10-21  0:39               ` John Spencer
2012-10-21  1:21                 ` John Spencer
2012-10-20 23:50       ` Isaac Dunham
2012-10-20 23:44         ` Rich Felker
2012-10-20 20:15 ` [PATCH 3/4] Import BSD functions defined in <netinet/ether.h> from NetBSD Abdoulaye Walsimou Gaye
2012-10-20 23:37   ` idunham
2012-10-21  0:40     ` Abdoulaye Walsimou GAYE
2012-10-21  0:42   ` John Spencer
2012-10-21  0:41     ` Rich Felker
2012-10-21  0:52     ` Abdoulaye Walsimou GAYE
2012-10-21  0:48       ` Rich Felker
2012-10-21  0:57       ` John Spencer
2012-10-21  0:53         ` Rich Felker
2012-10-20 20:15 ` [PATCH 4/4] <netinet/ether.h>: Add GNU extensions ether_ntoa_r() and ether_aton_r() Abdoulaye Walsimou Gaye
2012-10-20 23:53   ` Rich Felker
2012-10-21  0:43     ` Abdoulaye Walsimou GAYE
2012-10-21  0:46       ` John Spencer

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