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From: Tim Tassonis <stuff@decentral.ch>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [musl] Is systemd in scope for musl?
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2021 23:44:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <509ff9aa-5d76-397e-20db-ed2b10dfad5c@decentral.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMFK0gsKYoNkoX_M1V4uMWhfTtSWqB4V90YBHMHmZVem-ZujpQ@mail.gmail.com>



On 8/20/21 20:55, Olivier Galibert wrote:
>    Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to build a kinda-distribution of linux on arm64 where all the 
> userspace is done with clang and which uses systemd[1].  I can either 
> use glibc or musl.  Glibc aggressively does not want to be compiled by 
> anything else than gcc.  Musl is missing a bunch of stuff systemd wants.
> 
> I have two possibilities, either make glibc work but not contribute the 
> changes (because I don't want to give my copyright to the fsf[2]) or 
> extend musl until it has all the missing APIs and contribute them.  I'd 
> rather do the latter.
> 
> Some APIs (qsort_r) are clearly going to be added in the future.  Others 
> are very glibc, e.g. printf configurability stuff, and do not come from 
> any standard.  So, is "this API is used by systemd" a good enough reason 
> to accept it as in-scope for musl[3] or will there be things that are 
> "never" going to be accepted?


Without wanting to bitch about SystemD, their maintainer has repeatedly 
proven to not give one fuck about any standards or portability, he 
actually deliberately enforced non-portability to other libraries than 
glibc and kernels than Linux.

So, I doubt very much this is the way to go. Chasing a deliberately 
moving target is no fun.

Bye
Tim

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-08-20 21:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-20 18:55 Olivier Galibert
2021-08-20 19:48 ` Max Rees
2021-08-20 20:29 ` Rich Felker
2021-08-20 21:44 ` Tim Tassonis [this message]
2021-08-20 22:02 ` Ariadne Conill

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