From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/2301 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Spencer Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: termios ugliness Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:34:49 +0100 Message-ID: <50A66B29.7080603@barfooze.de> References: <20121116035211.GA30974@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353083700 18596 80.91.229.3 (16 Nov 2012 16:35:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:35:00 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-2302-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Fri Nov 16 17:35:11 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TZOsn-0007IV-4Q for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2012 17:35:09 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 14150 invoked by uid 550); 16 Nov 2012 16:34:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 14142 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2012 16:34:58 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110221 SUSE/3.1.8 Mail/1.0 In-Reply-To: <20121116035211.GA30974@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:2301 Archived-At: On 11/16/2012 04:52 AM, Rich Felker wrote: > Since it's a decision we can't really change later without breaking > ABI, though, I'd like to ask the community: does anybody have a strong > feeling about whether we should use the kernel termios structure > directly or do like glibc and use an arch-generic userspace termios > structure and code to convert to/from the kernel version? i think that it's not worthwile to support glibc abi compatibility on that platform, if that means that we have to bloat the code and/or use hacks to achieve it. +1 for the straight approach.