From: Luca Barbato <lu_zero@gentoo.org>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Best place to discuss other lightweight libraries?
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:21:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51755575.9030809@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130422145346.GP20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx>
On 04/22/2013 04:53 PM, Rich Felker wrote:
> - Thread allergies, i.e. horribly over-complicating program logic to
> avoid threads. The best examples I can think of are the added logic
> needed to generalize a program that's reading from ordinary file
> descriptors (e.g. connection sockets) in an event loop to support
> SSL sockets or zlib-compressed streams. (Note: there are ways to
> address this kind of problem more cleanly without threads too, but
> nobody does it. I can elaborate if anybody's interested.)
I'm interested to read about it.
> - DBus.
Sadly nobody is pushing for a better local socket multicast abstraction
to send notifications back and forth in an efficient fashion.
I'm hoping for nanomsg once it is complete or Binder once it is
correctly documented ^^; (and thus implemented in more than few forks of
linux and maybe haiku)
> - Use of global state. Even seemingly-harmless things like a global
> registered log function are harmful, because two different libraries
> (or the main program and a library) might be trying to use the
> library with the global log destination, and clobbering each other's
> choices.
For this there aren't solution that won't cause different problems I'm
afraid.
> - Designs based on shared libraries, especially lots of them. This
> creates bloat and often interferes with the ability to use static
> linking.
Special mention to those that want to do clever stuff on the init
section (e.g. change a program global state from there)
> - Dependency on any library with the above problems. :-)
And that kills everybody using glib? *runs and hides*
lu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-22 15:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-21 16:30 LM
2013-04-21 20:17 ` Rob Landley
2013-04-21 20:24 ` Rob Landley
2013-04-24 11:39 ` LM
2013-04-25 19:30 ` Rob Landley
2013-04-21 23:26 ` Isaac Dunham
2013-04-22 14:53 ` Rich Felker
2013-04-22 15:21 ` Luca Barbato [this message]
2013-04-22 16:40 ` LM
2013-04-22 16:47 ` Daniel Cegiełka
2013-04-22 22:07 ` Rich Felker
2013-04-23 12:50 ` LM
2013-04-23 14:40 ` John Spencer
2013-04-23 14:58 ` Rich Felker
2013-04-22 19:31 ` Luca Barbato
2013-04-22 23:24 ` Rob Landley
2013-04-22 23:31 ` Rich Felker
2013-04-23 0:54 ` Rob Landley
2013-04-23 1:46 ` Rich Felker
2013-04-23 5:04 ` Isaac Dunham
2013-04-23 13:47 ` Rich Felker
2013-04-23 21:25 ` Luca Barbato
2013-04-23 21:50 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-04-24 2:37 ` Rich Felker
2013-04-24 4:43 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-04-24 13:37 ` Rich Felker
2013-04-24 0:50 ` idunham
2013-04-24 6:11 ` Rob Landley
2013-04-22 21:52 ` Rich Felker
2013-04-22 22:42 ` Luca Barbato
2013-04-22 23:06 ` Rich Felker
2013-04-23 0:26 ` Luca Barbato
2013-04-23 2:14 ` Rob Landley
2013-04-23 19:07 ` Strake
2013-04-23 19:24 ` Daniel Cegiełka
2013-04-23 21:33 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2013-04-24 12:12 ` Zvi Gilboa
2013-04-23 21:34 ` Luca Barbato
2013-04-24 11:18 ` Daniel Cegiełka
2013-04-24 11:48 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-04-24 12:32 ` Daniel Cegiełka
2013-04-24 13:38 ` Rich Felker
2013-04-24 13:55 ` Daniel Cegiełka
2013-04-24 13:37 ` go support (was: Best place to discuss other lightweight libraries?) John Spencer
2013-04-24 13:39 ` Rich Felker
2013-04-24 16:33 ` Kurt H Maier
2013-04-24 15:47 ` Best place to discuss other lightweight libraries? Szabolcs Nagy
2013-04-24 19:17 ` Rich Felker
2013-04-25 6:40 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2013-04-25 19:37 ` Rob Landley
2013-04-24 13:28 ` go support (was: Best place to discuss other lightweight libraries?) John Spencer
2013-04-24 13:42 ` Rich Felker
2013-04-24 14:06 ` Best place to discuss other lightweight libraries? Christian Neukirchen
2013-04-29 11:41 ` Daniel Cegiełka
2013-04-29 16:31 ` Go (was: [musl] Best place to discuss other lightweight libraries?) John Spencer
2013-04-29 16:44 ` Daniel Cegiełka
2013-04-23 0:31 ` Best place to discuss other lightweight libraries? Rob Landley
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