From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/4024 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Spencer Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: Re: status of POSIX man pages? Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 06:44:37 +0200 Message-ID: <522D5235.4090403@barfooze.de> References: <20130701174411.GA1631@gauss> <20130726192025.GC30662@newbook> <5229C94C.9020504@barfooze.de> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1378702414 14428 80.91.229.3 (9 Sep 2013 04:53:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 04:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: John Spencer , musl@lists.openwall.com, Isaac , Rob Landley , Felix Janda To: mtk.manpages@gmail.com Original-X-From: musl-return-4028-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Mon Sep 09 06:53:38 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VItTl-00008w-S2 for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2013 06:53:37 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 26347 invoked by uid 550); 9 Sep 2013 04:53:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 26339 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2013 04:53:36 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110221 SUSE/3.1.8 Mail/1.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:4024 Archived-At: On 09/08/2013 08:05 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:23 PM, John Spencer wrote: >> On 07/26/2013 09:20 PM, Isaac wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 03:08:52AM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> As of a few days ago, the necessary permissions are granted. I do not >>>> yet have the source files (and so am unsure of the source format), but >>>> I expect that they will become available to us in the next couple of >>>> weeks. >>> >>> >>> I'm curious what the status of this is. Do you have the sources yet? >>> >> >> i am very interested in a status update as well. >> getting the posix 2008 manpages into my distro is a todo item since a long >> time >> https://github.com/rofl0r/sabotage/issues/34 > > A while back we got permission from the IEEE and The Open Group to use > the POSIX.1-2013 pages (==POSIX.1-2008 + Technical Corrigendum 1, > published 2013). > > However, the source text that has been provided to us needs massaging > in a number of ways before it can be published as a set of standalone > pages. Felix Janda kindly offered to take on that task, and has been > making very good progress. I expect that in a week or two, we'll have > a set of pages for public review (to see if there are any remaining > bugs in the "massaging process" that Felix or I did not spot). > that's very good news. btw, i am currently writing (or improving) a non-bloated man implementation: https://raw.github.com/rofl0r/hardcore-utils/master/man.c . in the process i noted that the posix manpages from 2003 make use of some groff features like the tbl preprocessor (a hideous hack to display html-like tables in a completely unidiomatic way), for example in man 1p printf. those features are not supported by any traditional *roff implementation, so i wonder if the next iteration of the posix manpages could stick to the basic nroff function set to improve compatibility... regards, --JS