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From: Laurent Bercot <ska-dietlibc@skarnet.org>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2] Add support for leap seconds in zoneinfo files
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 10:48:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52A1AB77.3060100@skarnet.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131206053146.GC1685@port70.net>


> - musl should not have configuration options that change
>    the behaviour of an api (otherwise maintaining the code
>    becomes much harder) so making leapseconds a libc build
>    time config option does not work

  Also, that would break musl's policy of "compile once, run
everywhere". Leap second usage should be a system-wide setting,
not a binary-wide setting.


> - hardcoding leapsecond tables into libc does not work either
>    requires recompilations and restarts

  Of course. Leap second tables should be read either from the
timezone files, as glibc does, or from a separate file.


> - if the clock source is a kernel level setting then the
>    information should come from the kernel (eg in the aux
>    vector or /proc)
> - if the clock source setting is an external setting (eg the
>    configured time server uses GPS or TAI time scale) then the
>    admin should provide the information through the filesystem,

  musl shouldn't try to autodetect settings from the kernel. The
admin should be the authoritative source of information.


>    but an update is still an operational hazard, and we need
>    to invent a file format and provide tools to get it from the
>    distributed tzdata files

  That's the easy part. I'm already doing that for skalibs. I'm
willing to provide the format and the tools.


> - during the life-time of a process adding leapseconds may
>    cause problems so the data should be cached at startup or
>    on demand at the first gmtime call, but then there might be
>    problems across processes if they don't have the same cached
>    leapsecond list

  Again, leap second announcements are a rare event and there's
plenty of time for admins to restart their processes. I don't
think that's something musl should care about.

-- 
  Laurent



  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-06 10:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-26 18:53 [PATCH] " Laurent Bercot
2013-11-26 18:59 ` Laurent Bercot
2013-11-26 23:32 ` Rich Felker
2013-11-27  1:06   ` Rich Felker
2013-11-27  4:10   ` Laurent Bercot
2013-11-27  4:25     ` Rich Felker
2013-11-27  5:53       ` Laurent Bercot
2013-11-27 18:43         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2013-11-27 20:33           ` Laurent Bercot
2013-12-05  1:13             ` [PATCHv2] " Laurent Bercot
2013-12-05  5:18               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2013-12-05  8:58                 ` Laurent Bercot
2013-12-05 14:21                   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2013-12-05 14:43               ` Rich Felker
2013-12-05 16:31                 ` Laurent Bercot
2013-12-05 16:40                   ` Rich Felker
2013-12-06  0:36                     ` Laurent Bercot
2013-12-06  0:45                       ` Rich Felker
2013-12-06  1:15                         ` Laurent Bercot
2013-12-06  5:31                           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2013-12-06 10:48                             ` Laurent Bercot [this message]
2013-12-06 11:38                               ` Raphael Cohn
2013-12-06 23:29                                 ` Laurent Bercot
2013-12-07  2:31                                   ` Rich Felker
2013-12-07  4:02                                     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2013-12-07  8:52                                     ` Laurent Bercot
2013-12-06  6:29                           ` Rich Felker
2013-12-06 10:37                             ` Laurent Bercot
2013-12-06 12:50                               ` Rich Felker
2013-12-06 13:27                                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2013-12-06 15:48                                   ` Rich Felker

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