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From: "Anthony G. Basile" <basile@opensource.dyc.edu>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Re: fixing -fPIE + -fstack-protector-all
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 07:16:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <545CB836.6030000@opensource.dyc.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <545C2A02.8090206@amacapital.net>

On 11/06/14 21:10, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On 11/06/2014 03:45 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
>> On 11/05/14 10:43, Rich Felker wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 04:25:03PM +0100, John Spencer wrote:
>>>> using -fPIE + -fstack-protector-all is currently broken for a number
>>>> of architectures (most notably i386) in the default gcc setup
>>>> (including the musl-cross patches), as it depends on a
>>>> libssp_nonshared.a which provides __stack_chk_fail_local().
>>>
>>> As discussed on IRC, I would _like_ to be able to simply add the
>>> following to crt/i386/crti.s:
>>>
>>> __stack_chk_fail_local: hlt
>>>
>>> and equivalent for other archs. This has the added benefit of
>>> effecting a crash without going through the PLT (whereas
>>> libssp_nonshared.a's __stack_chk_fail_local calls __stack_chk_fail via
>>> the PLT) so it's not vulnerable to attacks that have overwritten the
>>> GOT with malicious pointers.
>>
>> For what its worth, hardening in gentoo (PaX kernel + userland hardening
>> with relro and bindnow) tries to prevent this kind of attack by making
>> the GOT read only after initial linking.
>
> What does the PaX kernel have to do with this?
>
> --Andy
>

Overspoke.  The userland stuff is sufficient to freeze the GOT.  I was 
just tangentially thinking of PaX's enhanced aslr.

-- 
Anthony G. Basile, Ph. D.
Chair of Information Technology
D'Youville College
Buffalo, NY 14201
(716) 829-8197


  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-07 12:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-05 15:25 John Spencer
2014-11-05 15:43 ` Rich Felker
2014-11-05 16:01   ` John Spencer
2014-11-05 16:20     ` Rich Felker
2014-11-06  1:34   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-06  1:44     ` Rich Felker
2014-11-06 11:45   ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-11-06 12:36     ` John Spencer
2014-11-07 12:25       ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-11-07  2:10     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-07 12:16       ` Anthony G. Basile [this message]
2014-11-05 16:01 ` Timo Teras
2014-11-06 12:11   ` Anthony G. Basile
2014-11-06 15:43     ` Rich Felker
2014-11-06 12:40   ` John Spencer
2014-11-06 12:47     ` Timo Teras

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