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From: "A. Wilcox" <awilfox@adelielinux.org>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: musl new-year's infrastructure resolutions
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 16:59:49 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <586ADB65.7020200@adelielinux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170102200620.GB89009@wopr>

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On 02/01/17 14:06, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 02:16:24PM -0500, Rich Felker wrote:
>> Mantis doesn't seem so bad as a user but I have no idea how bad
>> it is under the hood. Redmine looks kinda nice and Alpine uses
>> it.
> 
> Redmine is a very typical Ruby on Rails application.  It works as 
> advertised but requires familiarity with that ecosystem to install
> and operate.  Mantis is a php application with all of the typical
> travails of php.


That's a very diplomatic assessment of Rails.

I administer multiple Rails applications - GitLab, a custom CMS, one
of the eCommerce packages, and a full Web application that was
developed in house.  I cannot believe how much of a resource drain
they are, even having gone through the pain of optimising the entire
stack.  I think the smallest RAM footprint I've ever seen out of Rails
is 450 MB resident.

This isn't even a Ruby problem; I have seen Sinatra using under 50 MB.

For a large Redmine install with a lot of users and some concurrency
(i.e. multiple people doing /something/ at the same time), I wouldn't
use a box with less than 2 GB RAM and dual-core.  And that's pushing it.

Look, I used to *be* a Rails developer.  I like the rapid prototyping
that it allows and I even *still* use it for that.  But it isn't
something I would ever choose to run in production.

- --arw

- -- 
A. Wilcox (awilfox)
Project Lead, Adélie Linux
http://adelielinux.org
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-02 22:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-31 23:37 Rich Felker
2017-01-01 22:37 ` A. Wilcox
2017-01-02  2:31   ` Rich Felker
2017-01-02  2:33     ` Rich Felker
2017-01-02  5:32     ` A. Wilcox
2017-01-02  5:40       ` Rich Felker
2017-01-02  6:39 ` Khem Raj
2017-01-02 16:58   ` Rich Felker
2017-01-02 18:11     ` Alexander Monakov
2017-01-02 18:23       ` Rich Felker
2017-01-02 18:15     ` Solar Designer
2017-01-02 18:25       ` Rich Felker
2017-01-02 18:27   ` Kurt H Maier
2017-01-02 18:36     ` Rich Felker
2017-01-02 18:52       ` Kurt H Maier
2017-01-02 19:16         ` Rich Felker
2017-01-02 20:06           ` Kurt H Maier
2017-01-02 22:59             ` A. Wilcox [this message]
2017-01-02 23:09               ` Kurt H Maier
2017-01-02 19:10       ` Matias A. Fonzo
2017-01-02 19:18         ` Rich Felker
2017-01-02 19:28           ` Matias A. Fonzo
2017-01-03  1:20             ` Laurent Bercot

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