From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/11753 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "A. Wilcox" Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: [PATCH] use UTC instead of GMT Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 09:05:34 -0500 Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?Ad=c3=a9lie_Linux?= Message-ID: <597B44AE.6050004@adelielinux.org> References: <20170722091903.19432-1-ncopa@alpinelinux.org> <20170722142625.GU1627@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20170728143510.692c5020@ncopa-desktop.copa.dup.pw> <20170728130017.GX1627@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1501250760 25725 195.159.176.226 (28 Jul 2017 14:06:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 14:06:00 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-11766-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Fri Jul 28 16:05:54 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by blaine.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1db5tj-00066C-Fh for gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Jul 2017 16:05:47 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 32083 invoked by uid 550); 28 Jul 2017 14:05:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-ID: Original-Received: (qmail 32062 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2017 14:05:50 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20170728130017.GX1627@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:11753 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 28/07/17 08:00, Rich Felker wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 02:35:10PM +0200, Natanael Copa wrote: >> I checked what FreeBSD, OpenBSD and GNU/Linux does when timezone >> is unset. Seems that they all use "UTC" so I think that makes >> most sense. > > That may well end up being the reasonable position. Let's see what > others have to say on the matter (hopefully without it getting too > much into bikeshedding). +100 That is the sane and reasonable thing to do and the fact musl doesn't do that automatically has broken two kernel builds for me (minor annoyance, but still a real issue). The kernels boot but uname -a says "Sat Sep 13 23:57:23 Time zone not s" which cuts off the year. May seem silly but having to use Wolfram Alpha to calculate what year the 13th of September fell on a Saturday is a bit annoying when you're dealing with servers with long uptimes... (The answer is 2014 and I pulled that from an old log. Don't worry, I'm not actually running anything that old on anything.) Best regards, - --arw - -- A. Wilcox (awilfox) Project Lead, Adélie Linux http://adelielinux.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJZe0SmAAoJEMspy1GSK50UWgIQAIaMb95cQ9jdFl6pwTKTXH7b iQSBHNLXoVY+VpHwfLDyKlULs7mr96zlcdiI9iiZNLg+0iosOaW1u1HZpFV8wiSv cm1WmDQuJhB7gTrj9Ydss3/LbBRbz8zxkgDOWqJD1SPZS15zkftX0hZsOqdbn4nT sJeh8Ucuo89TUZ+FMHNL0fttSLSMIws+Cyk10sucxe2tfMy1PpmFMMv8khsevlsF /Jhdj66bUI5FBTPC6cxLbYiGXYZI4IzAv1L7DPH2HT954Hb+5vptFaD5Bmktty+u Xn19SgTnXp8KVQhySmUr02EyfJ/ZaNcN4jUwZxes6B5sGRJLAXtyRwXCy7LNNOjN ZBj8np+k7hQdzfsRosB3ZbEpD1kAib+pMQfcomrKilSpDV+IcmEBXOcdRcoNZVaY aON6DuzbXlVutt/W7k4XcSURkltK6C7lDjb9rbVRYr5CBkLY8yje4NQCY0xWHUWM ke5qPivzr4fJZSKSi3nOPGm8YyumEBEvP5vHdynwRO8WYno512ag1dJVbTTarLYc pISIB5mhrvlMGdPeDfBSVa6wtLdMHstIlmd57+aM+QPF/t8C2LUFf6sRadOxudlt Cj50CDV3Y6HeNUw8sH/boRGVwd/HZmoR5NPnRsAObMdcdQtmJkCY7GLZazZl1ZXa pfqgR082/TDNhUa80MHa =Bx7q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----