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From: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com, Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: Alexey Izbyshev <izbyshev@ispras.ru>
Subject: Re: [musl] vfork()-based posix_spawn() has more failure modes than fork()-based one
Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 17:31:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5e002596-2450-98e0-f06b-39c458dcaf71@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8735hr4ogc.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>

On 5/2/22 17:25, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Rich Felker:
> 
>> I'm trying to understand how this comes to be. The child should
>> inherit the namespaces of the parent and thus should not be in a
>> different namespace that precludes spawn. I'm guessing this is some
>> oddity where unshare doesn't affect the process itself, only its
>> children? If so, it seems like a bug that it doesn't affect the
>> process itself after execve (after unshare(1) runs your test program),
>> but that probably can't be fixed now on the Linux side for stability
>> reasons. :(
> 
> It's about fundamentally conflicting requirements.
> 
> The vDSO data mapping needs to store the time offset, so it has to be
> distinct from the original namespace.  vfork preserves the VM sharing.
> It's not possible to do both things at the same time.
> 
> unshare(CLONE_NEWTIME) should have been specified to only take effect
> after execve, when the vDSO is remapped anyway.

Can we ask some kernel developers for an opinion?

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-02 21:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-02 19:26 Alexey Izbyshev
2022-05-02 20:49 ` Carlos O'Donell
2022-05-02 21:18 ` Rich Felker
2022-05-02 21:25   ` Florian Weimer
2022-05-02 21:31     ` Rich Felker
2023-02-22 22:04       ` Alexey Izbyshev
2022-05-02 21:31     ` Carlos O'Donell [this message]
2022-05-02 21:49       ` Alexey Izbyshev
2022-05-02 21:56         ` Alexey Izbyshev

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