From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/953 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: aep Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: hm, libc crashes loading libc Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 13:27:59 +0200 Message-ID: <810bdf36787d73128c8fb5733d15b2f4@exys.org> References: <9ab5e7d10a265901c54f6f71443a26f4@exys.org> <20120602040322.GP163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20120602203225.GQ163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <42eed1667cf9974c1a0ae96295a8b11c@exys.org> <20120602214103.GR163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1338722708 20430 80.91.229.3 (3 Jun 2012 11:25:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 11:25:08 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: musl-return-954-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Sun Jun 03 13:25:05 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sb8vg-0006gN-0K for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 13:25:04 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 3949 invoked by uid 550); 3 Jun 2012 11:25:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 3941 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2012 11:25:03 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20120602214103.GR163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> X-Sender: aep@exys.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.5.4 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:953 Archived-At: On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 17:41:03 -0400, Rich Felker wrote: > Like most GNU junk, it's oriented towards the case where N->infinity. C++ is broken in that way, but it's a reality thing. You can't just make C++ go away. I think i will run into very _long_ symbol names with clay, does gnuhash stuff help me there or is it just good for large amounts of symbols? > I suspect it's because their build system is broken and it's hard for > them to test changes to these files without building them as separate > .so's... Someone prof wrote a book on how to design your stuff in a modular way, and all the fresh university students remembered was "have a lot of DSO's". Now we've got a lot of non modular DSOs. congratulations. Same with dbus today.