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From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
Cc: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	 Nicholas Piggin via Libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	 libc-dev@lists.llvm.org,  linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	 musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [musl] Powerpc Linux 'scv' system call ABI proposal take 2
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 11:57:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eeshupoz.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200420211751.GF23945@port70.net> (Szabolcs Nagy's message of "Mon, 20 Apr 2020 23:17:51 +0200")

* Szabolcs Nagy:

> * Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com> [2020-04-20 12:08:36 +1000]:
>> Excerpts from Rich Felker's message of April 20, 2020 11:29 am:
>> > Also, allowing patching of executable pages is generally frowned upon
>> > these days because W^X is a desirable hardening property.
>> 
>> Right, it would want be write-protected after being patched.
>
> "frowned upon" means that users may have to update
> their security policy setting in pax, selinux, apparmor,
> seccomp bpf filters and who knows what else that may
> monitor and flag W&X mprotect.
>
> libc update can break systems if the new libc does W&X.

It's possible to map over pre-compiled alternative implementations,
though.  Basically, we would do the patching and build time and store
the results in the file.

It works best if the variance is concentrated on a few pages, and
there are very few alternatives.  For example, having two syscall APIs
and supporting threading and no-threading versions would need four
code versions in total, which is likely excessive.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-21  9:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-15 21:45 Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-15 22:55 ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16  0:16   ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-16  0:48     ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16  2:24       ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-16  2:35         ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16  2:53           ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-16  3:03             ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16  3:41               ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-16 20:18             ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-16  9:58     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-04-20  0:27       ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-20  1:29         ` Rich Felker
2020-04-20  2:08           ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-20 21:17             ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-04-21  9:57               ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2020-04-16 15:21     ` Jeffrey Walton
2020-04-16 15:40       ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16  4:48   ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-16 15:35     ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16 16:42       ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-16 16:52         ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16 18:12           ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-16 23:02             ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-17  0:34               ` Rich Felker
2020-04-17  1:48                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-17  8:34                   ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-16 14:16   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-04-16 15:37     ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16 17:50       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-04-16 17:59         ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16 18:18           ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-04-16 18:31             ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16 18:44               ` Rich Felker
2020-04-16 18:52               ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-04-20  0:46                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-20  1:10               ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-20  1:34                 ` Rich Felker
2020-04-20  2:32                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-20  4:09                     ` Rich Felker
2020-04-20  4:31                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-20 17:27                         ` Rich Felker
2020-04-22  6:18                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-22  6:29                             ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-23  2:36                             ` Rich Felker
2020-04-23 12:13                               ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-04-23 16:18                                 ` Rich Felker
2020-04-23 16:35                                   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-04-23 16:43                                     ` Rich Felker
2020-04-23 17:15                                       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-04-23 17:42                                         ` Rich Felker
2020-04-25  3:40                                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-25  4:52                                             ` Rich Felker
2020-04-25  3:30                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-21 12:28                 ` David Laight
2020-04-21 14:39                   ` Rich Felker
2020-04-21 15:00                     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2020-04-21 15:31                       ` David Laight
2020-04-22  6:54                       ` [musl] " Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-22  7:15                         ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-22  7:31                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2020-04-22  8:11                             ` Florian Weimer

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