From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/983 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christian Neukirchen Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: Hello Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:45:07 +0200 Message-ID: <87fwa7ow2k.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20120607200123.402a1672@sibserver.ru> <4FD0A902.6070108@barfooze.de> <20120607231831.66c78c33@sibserver.ru> <4FD0D6D9.5080707@barfooze.de> <20120607161928.GE163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1339091125 4370 80.91.229.3 (7 Jun 2012 17:45:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:45:25 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-984-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Thu Jun 07 19:45:24 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Scglt-000789-2N for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:45:21 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 1570 invoked by uid 550); 7 Jun 2012 17:45:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 1562 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2012 17:45:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=MHKkPZNfRqmjh4TUDuRJeC6mf0sx+kee0ug8LZZ/p+o=; b=jRyEOSIRkG3I2Qo26UzhOk00poZPLVVSaHe8rSsRq+KKwFDmJ2gPL8QH95uIiOdgLp 2La5BUxA6ZN2tPN6gk6BX4FQ8J6zyxpMfM3nY2+PQ6Tv7iwJmVf2VttgqocU5Yawqma7 Id61gvIvq3Sw99fboUuqdiCSx0+JfmJwODj9I60lF5U2l9iitljLUK8oDkCA2UJpMsbG 7Y3m4yeHxN+x0/H6JwgRDCQmCZJw67got8Lh1eX9zphJgsnUfFKGXXMsow2RW8kjfQZU C/0ASkF9VKJTu75mKNK6MiOZt34m6bQGZnOasbSDA57uKYSuWBzdziHG/woL0GwBM19b uKsA== In-Reply-To: <20120607161928.GE163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (Rich Felker's message of "Thu, 7 Jun 2012 12:19:28 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:983 Archived-At: Rich Felker writes: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 06:29:13PM +0200, John Spencer wrote: >> >At this time I think to take an older X release without some stuff I >> >don't need. X11R7.6 build requires python and weird xml libs for >> >example. Maybe even XFree86 (to test it in qemu for the micro desktop >> >system project). >> > >> what kept me from configuring X11 to work properly is its huge >> freaking complexity. >> if an older version is simpler and can do the job as well, i'm all for it. >> i fear though that you won't get any up-to-date software compiled >> against it. >> probably not worth the effort. > > As far as the server goes, even the oldest X server versions should > work fine with modern software (aside from possibly being really slow > when the software wants to do 3D, etc.). That's how X was designed. Reality is, applications simply won't work without XRENDER, XKB and other 2000'ish things. E.g. GTK generally needs 8bpp or more, or it will not even start. -- Christian Neukirchen http://chneukirchen.org