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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Tim Tassonis <stuff@decentral.ch>
Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [musl] Plans to remove nscd in Fedora
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:09:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h7qli1p8.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <514e3157-f82b-8417-e748-16e9539ecacd@decentral.ch> (Tim Tassonis's message of "Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:01:00 +0200")

* Tim Tassonis:

> On 10/23/20 1:35 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> * Rich Felker:
>> 
>>> The only capacity in which musl uses nscd is to access custom
>>> user/group backends provided through it.
>> And that's the only way to get this data into musl programs.
>> 
>>> musl specifically does not use nss itself because it's not compatible
>>> with static linking and because loading arbitrary module libraries
>>> into the calling process's core is not safe and goes against best
>>> practices. I believe the glibc folks were starting to realize this
>>> too, so it was kinda my hope that nscd would become the main/only way
>>> nss modules are accessed on glibc too.
>> This requirement has largely been pushed into the NSS modules
>> themselves.  If they do more than just opening a files or sockets, they
>> need to offload part of the functionality (actually most of it) into a
>> separate daemon.  This is the difference between nss_ldap and nss_ldapd.
>> SSSD has largely assumed this role for the non-hosts maps.  It looks
>> like that systemd-resolved will cover the hosts maps.  So it's unclear
>> what's left for nscd to handle.
>
> You might not know about this, but there is actually a world beyond
> Redhat/Fedora/Systemd.

Yes, we know that.  Which is why Arjun reached out to you.  Was this a
mistake?  Is the musl community not interested in compatibility with
Fedora and its downstream distributions?

Thanks,
Florian
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-23 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1924902939.18027073.1603105167534.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com>
2020-10-19 11:13 ` Arjun Shankar
2020-10-20  1:08   ` Rich Felker
2020-10-23 11:35     ` Florian Weimer
2020-10-23 12:01       ` Tim Tassonis
2020-10-23 12:09         ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2020-10-23 13:29     ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-10-23 13:37       ` Laurent Bercot
2020-10-23 14:14       ` Jesse Hathaway
2020-10-23 16:58         ` Rich Felker
2020-10-26 12:20         ` Florian Weimer
2020-10-26 13:12           ` Rich Felker
2020-11-02 13:54             ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-02 14:50               ` Rich Felker
2020-11-03  9:07                 ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-03 15:41                   ` Rich Felker

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