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From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: Norbert Lange <nolange79@gmail.com>
Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com,  Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Subject: Re: [musl] [BUG] sysconf implementing _SC_NPROCESSORS_(CONF|ONLN) incorrectly
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 11:50:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o8rtjcwj.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADYdroPaVEBkNLH1eLBL9ZuVtzc95ckAmu90iOjemwTwVbKKtQ@mail.gmail.com> (Norbert Lange's message of "Wed, 15 Apr 2020 11:38:42 +0200")

* Norbert Lange:

> How should  one deal with this?
> I understand that the semantics are vague, but given that musl now
> implements this
> function, it will make detection and fallback hard (especially as musl
> doesn't wants to be identified by the likes of macros).
>
> As it is now, just using the affinity mask definitely cant be useful,
> an application wanting that behavior should be patched to
> use that function directly.
> If musl would not define the _SC_NPROCESSORS_* macros (but still keep
> the implementation),
> this could be used for compile-time detection atleast. Enabling the
> current implementation would be
> just a matter of explicitly defining those macros.

_SC_NPROCESSORS_* as implemented in glibc is bad because those values
are not adjusted by cgroups, so it can grossly overestimate available
resources.

The cgroups interfaces themselves are not stable and very complicated.
I don't think it's a good idea to target them, especially not from
code that is expected to be linked statically into applications.

Given that, I'm not sure that glibc's way is a significant
improvement.  musl should perhaps be changed to cope more gracefully
with a sched_getaffinity failure, though (by not reporting a UP
environment by accident).

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-15  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-09 10:29 Norbert Lange
2020-04-09 18:18 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-04-09 18:31   ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-10  1:02     ` Rich Felker
2020-04-14 10:08       ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-14 15:55         ` Rich Felker
2020-04-14 16:55           ` Florian Weimer
2020-04-15  9:38             ` Norbert Lange
2020-04-15  9:50               ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2020-04-15  9:57                 ` Norbert Lange
2020-04-15 10:04                   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-04-15 16:01                     ` Rich Felker
2020-04-15 15:58                 ` Rich Felker

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