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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: Arjun Shankar <arjun@redhat.com>,
	 musl@lists.openwall.com,  Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [musl] Plans to remove nscd in Fedora
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 13:35:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pn59i38j.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201020010855.GE17637@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (Rich Felker's message of "Mon, 19 Oct 2020 21:08:56 -0400")

* Rich Felker:

> The only capacity in which musl uses nscd is to access custom
> user/group backends provided through it.

And that's the only way to get this data into musl programs.

> musl specifically does not use nss itself because it's not compatible
> with static linking and because loading arbitrary module libraries
> into the calling process's core is not safe and goes against best
> practices. I believe the glibc folks were starting to realize this
> too, so it was kinda my hope that nscd would become the main/only way
> nss modules are accessed on glibc too.

This requirement has largely been pushed into the NSS modules
themselves.  If they do more than just opening a files or sockets, they
need to offload part of the functionality (actually most of it) into a
separate daemon.  This is the difference between nss_ldap and nss_ldapd.

SSSD has largely assumed this role for the non-hosts maps.  It looks
like that systemd-resolved will cover the hosts maps.  So it's unclear
what's left for nscd to handle.

Thanks,
Florian
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-23 11:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1924902939.18027073.1603105167534.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com>
2020-10-19 11:13 ` Arjun Shankar
2020-10-20  1:08   ` Rich Felker
2020-10-23 11:35     ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2020-10-23 12:01       ` Tim Tassonis
2020-10-23 12:09         ` Florian Weimer
2020-10-23 13:29     ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-10-23 13:37       ` Laurent Bercot
2020-10-23 14:14       ` Jesse Hathaway
2020-10-23 16:58         ` Rich Felker
2020-10-26 12:20         ` Florian Weimer
2020-10-26 13:12           ` Rich Felker
2020-11-02 13:54             ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-02 14:50               ` Rich Felker
2020-11-03  9:07                 ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-03 15:41                   ` Rich Felker

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