From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/12659 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: William Pitcock Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: [PATCH] resolver: only exit the search path loop there are a positive number of results given Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 15:33:07 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20180330185225.29656-1-nenolod@dereferenced.org> <20180330191452.GS1436@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20180330193548.GT1436@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20180330202431.GE4418@port70.net> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1522441882 16396 195.159.176.226 (30 Mar 2018 20:31:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 20:31:22 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-12673-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Fri Mar 30 22:31:17 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by blaine.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f20g7-00045i-NB for gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 22:31:15 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 9904 invoked by uid 550); 30 Mar 2018 20:33:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-ID: Original-Received: (qmail 9880 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2018 20:33:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dereferenced-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=bi8ORtmJPJbHKk62QFvmreB8rgNwFIPNV+/PhTMTCbs=; b=LYEqcnGNDZ19WBXtUhIXqUxUxorS6T4d392cMV12Kn0DRQ2tRo3j4ZfXpsBUSd2DNw 5q0DuSOUZnWjyJIsdvmamuTbWrKSg0g4/KtmnRy+aogRx4Z5T6Oaw3aGADR190P+pYWF n6fIHTFZjc1m+SLRdokn7iHkgJMEFhvbThB0xK9VXibRfHWZSTgWfKqugFjJYzbTe2mP +d+jmtfCqbBJlD5L8KEp9Ofuomzfd49NwhPXf5exnb1aUgLoobPTa6cflY7YyuA+o1ba vuOaAU73+2opswO6HEyLDoeWEzDDz497n2/9J4EBTaJoUVzZ1LGeuf44W6ULX49HNJ0d 9BEw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=bi8ORtmJPJbHKk62QFvmreB8rgNwFIPNV+/PhTMTCbs=; b=rkJ8cpysl7q23VYn+jiWwkQ4CkhIksmxpJzlF3RvQrAvAFwpCi9Zy+wip449LJvY7U EEjg/Q6uf8zRSGcC+JhBwcYlnBYld0xQYay7MHu36RnO4MqytMDN9lbNnpTMQ+Z0FkbH xqD6Llrqu5hA9lQ2q0pUE+KIaYaA+dVN+XxzRcjEMA0q99LDLCboKSl5mRm2zOoyEZyZ szrQDWhUcwGAaU1c25zC/tKck3vrBDYNA8yhHhX+Nf/cwF/l7lPVa4WaVY+7j6sgIl7n ERQmCFmllsH86nMnvZlizv5D/90u9RVHqSS8V7UnGBGphxa5ZKukceWSWBPz/4RTJKYK VQXA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tANqYN0VIsVwQwHvcolvrfexeUoruvufiSSFbORggzFOIxfu3hZ oDaIs9tUFuYnqeZ4U385Iq+PesYwbkxVvzPVxl0u5Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx487ewHMkIevEv43k9zPD2xpSblhOWR4WD8b286+ycVksAurwJjZ7IX3KO74tl/13VxYu8kvJiMpy658czH7TXw= X-Received: by 10.200.40.37 with SMTP id 34mr653890qtq.111.1522441988257; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 13:33:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20180330202431.GE4418@port70.net> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:12659 Archived-At: Hello, On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > * William Pitcock [2018-03-30 14:44:44 -0500]: >> There is a talk in a few weeks at Kubecon (the Kubernetes conference), >> explicitly titled "Don't Use Alpine If You Care About DNS." The talk >> largely centers around how musl's overly strict behaviour makes Alpine >> a bad choice for "the real world." I would like to turn this into a >> story where we can announce that Alpine 3.8 mitigates this problem >> instead, doing such will be good for both Alpine and the musl >> ecosystem as a whole, as it is defanging a point of possible FUD. > > musl has had a good track record catching bugs in dns > implementations and in dns setups, i don't think this > should be mitigated, it's good to know that cloudflare > has a broken dns server, or that kubernetes had dns > setup bugs, these are real reliability and performance > issues affecting all systems not just musl. We can add a strict option to turn off the mitigation, but Alpine 3.8 will ship with a mitigation regardless. William