From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/9656 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hugues Bruant Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: musl licensing Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 08:49:39 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20160315221757.GA3522@openwall.com> <56E98AB1.9030309@openwall.com> <20160316234656.GQ9349@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20160317081748.GF13856@example.net> <20160317162848.0e2a44231ee8a836129370d4@frign.de> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114b29d60a7661052e40942a X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1458229800 8894 80.91.229.3 (17 Mar 2016 15:50:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 15:50:00 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-9669-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Thu Mar 17 16:49:56 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1agaBO-0003Q8-MP for gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 16:49:54 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 1370 invoked by uid 550); 17 Mar 2016 15:49:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-ID: Original-Received: (qmail 1352 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2016 15:49:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aerofs-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=a/lL1RhUfUwPg9rCvBSq/ifUtP45czvq1EhVZm5A3JI=; b=Q+RI74mDPXsdYV9iL1N9ON3ThbO5NQ4wkT95LAORK2UDSe8CYAmXW4LHduAEcVll/L 2k0V+yyA+1+yNdXd1npNAqJEAc3eapYcmEud0RbP79r3c71NqKnnxLokJlgv04yzqZcP hPOuFw1qT4cyNhaQq6+bD1VeekT8DZb3f7q2Sz6rKz3Kidy9lT4Xu7y0CduCTCzjZPC2 LcIfi6HibRnLuWeb3XC5iUukDQzsEBvJoib0LIeQqVGFp1j56qyF+kSV4YSmYtwJizle IdA8y/VzrjM/3v5oDTThybd4NkO7YyU+f0Cg/w3HgjvrNeOfA5HjIdWmm4BlrxHM846U uG8A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=a/lL1RhUfUwPg9rCvBSq/ifUtP45czvq1EhVZm5A3JI=; b=Gjo/qqsj2xHPbAQTbNoKiGwNvJgqkHAf1bs7K5JXyr3tbb67X34FXEjxPMksDQJ+Nv UgAjDp5ss8GsOTB6jHFVKvjb00i30aXYN8FKxhkAs6gMWQRI6M7mCdb65rkXu/K7/H/p tm83h27B4W2q5yrGTh/Fg+cYF3PUeYUfddbjyeg/p3GabqLifrqRmeHx97PfwCAlH4VG rxaJeDqTeAHvP0XJj90tjoUsiW7rlklHVkR+tAtkyWCFlTEwMlB7efycX+Yc4Dig8n0u qGSdBDcmIG7Ux2uWZOpXV77HK+fIoVw2KnDJWN0/MHN2rMaRPaTBM92bNh0GafzKv0Xy iiiA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJi+o97CQ/CVSNTTll2mZtI84vCfQDPR5LYfyll2sGVoLxy1QSla8kSjiRek6h41opOdHVVV68FeEhLaBmh X-Received: by 10.28.30.215 with SMTP id e206mr34683233wme.25.1458229780044; Thu, 17 Mar 2016 08:49:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160317162848.0e2a44231ee8a836129370d4@frign.de> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:9656 Archived-At: --001a114b29d60a7661052e40942a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > And don't get me wrong, I'm probably one of the biggest enemies of > the term "intellectual property" in the open source context; for > companies it's another matter, however, we have to play by the > rules of the system and be clear about what we mean. > For lawyers, calling something "public domain" doesn't mean much > to them. So endure the pain, license it under BSD-0, so Google's > lawyers and future peoples' lawyers are happy and we actually get > shit done. > Or go the SQLite way and charge a fee to get an explicit license for companies that are not comfortable with Public Domain http://sqlite.org/copyright.html That's probably much stronger than the musl community would be comfortable with and also too late as it would require all past contributors to disclaim copyright, not just Rich but it's worth noting that public domain ideology is not incompatible with corporate use. --001a114b29d60a7661052e40942a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And don't get me wrong, I'm probably one of the bigges= t enemies of
the term "intellectual property" in the open source context; for<= br> companies it's another matter, however, we have to play by the
rules of the system and be clear about what we mean.
For lawyers, calling something "public domain" doesn't mean m= uch
to them. So endure the pain, license it under BSD-0, so Google's
lawyers and future peoples' lawyers are happy and we actually get
shit done.
Or go the SQLite way and charge a fee to ge= t an explicit license for companies that are not comfortable with Public Do= main


That's pr= obably much stronger than the musl community would be comfortable with and = also too late as it would require all past contributors to disclaim copyrig= ht, not just Rich but it's worth noting that public domain ideology is = not incompatible with corporate use.
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