The important question at hand is whether the hardware treats "next instruction" as a critical part of the special case. The recommended sequence is: bcl 20,31,$+4 next-instructions... But, does the hardware _also_ trigger the expected special-cased effect on the return stack when jumping to locations other than the next instruction? E.g. is this OK w.r.t. return-stack? bcl 20,31,$+8 .long __hwcap-. next-instructions... On X86, calling *exactly* the next instruction is how you trigger the special-case in the return-stack-predictor. But, it sounds like potentially on PPC, the address is not part of what triggers the special-case. Is that correct? On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 8:45 PM David Edelsohn wrote: > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 8:39 PM Rich Felker wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 08:15:48PM -0500, David Edelsohn wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 7:59 PM Rich Felker wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 07, 2021 at 01:37:12AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > > * Stijn Tintel: > > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/src/setjmp/powerpc64/setjmp.s > b/src/setjmp/powerpc64/setjmp.s > > > > > > index 37683fda..32853693 100644 > > > > > > --- a/src/setjmp/powerpc64/setjmp.s > > > > > > +++ b/src/setjmp/powerpc64/setjmp.s > > > > > > @@ -69,7 +69,17 @@ __setjmp_toc: > > > > > > stfd 30, 38*8(3) > > > > > > stfd 31, 39*8(3) > > > > > > > > > > > > - # 5) store vector registers v20-v31 > > > > > > + # 5) store vector registers v20-v31 if hardware supports > AltiVec > > > > > > + mflr 0 > > > > > > + bl 1f > > > > > > + .hidden __hwcap > > > > > > + .long __hwcap-. > > > > > > +1: mflr 4 > > > > > > > > > > This de-balances the return stack and probably has quite severe > > > > > performance impact. The ISA manual says to use > > > > > > > > > > bcl 20,31,$+4 > > > > > > > > > > and you'll have to store the __hwcap offset somewhere else. > > > > > > > > To begin with, let's change the .s files to .S files and put the > whole > > > > branch logic inside #ifndef __ALTIVEC__ so that it does not impact > > > > normal builds with an ISA level where Altivec can be assumed to be > > > > present. > > > > > > > > I'm not sufficiently familiar with the PowerPC ISA to know how bcl > > > > works, but if there's a less expensive solution along those lines > > > > that's compatible with all ISA levels, by all means let's use it. The > > > > same could be done for powerpc-sf (32-bit) and its SPE branches, too. > > > > > > bl = branch and link > > > bcl = branch conditional and link > > > > > > link means place the next instruction address in the link register. > > > Normally a branch and link would be used for a matching "return" > > > instruction, but in this case it is being used to compute a position > > > independent code address. As Florian correctly points out, the "bl" > > > will corrupt the link stack in the processor used to predict return > > > addresses and the recommended sequence is the one that he suggests. > > > > > > bcl 20,31,addr > > > > > > which means branch always and, because the condition register bits are > > > irrelevant, a special value that instructs the processor to not push > > > the address onto the link stack so that the "calls" and "returns" > > > remain matched. > > > > Thanks. Am I correct in understanding then that we don't need $+4, but > > can instead use the 1f just as now, with inline .long __hwcap-. -- in > > other words that "bcl 20,31," is a drop-in replacement for "bl" > > without the link stack impact? > > It should work, but it's slightly preferred to use $+4 because one > explicitly wants the address of the next instruction and labels of the > form "1f" are not supported by all assemblers. > > Thanks, David >