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From: John Regan <saxindustries@gmail.com>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Question about setting argv[0] when manually using dynamic linker
Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 14:16:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACBMf30uisSGHfAbLi+G_=rEFSGJy1M7LPRhxhggm9Jc6rVmvg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170517190705.GM6320@example.net>

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On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 2:07 PM, <u-uy74@aetey.se> wrote:

> On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:24:28PM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> > > >>> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 08:38:56PM -0400, John Regan wrote:
> > > >>> > Hi there - I was wondering if it's possible to somehow set
> argv[0] when
> > > >>> > calling the dynamic linker to load a program.
>
> > > >>> Set argv[0] to whatever you need when you exec*() the dynamic
> loader,
> > > >>> which is straightforward with a binary wrapper (not with a shell).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> A binary wrapper also adds less overhead then going through a
> shell.
>
> > > >>> Rune
>
> > a completely reasonable and recommended way for deploying dynamic
> > linked apps in a self-contained way that doesn't depend on musl libc
> > on the host. Unfortunately there's no way to set argv[0] like you want
>
> We do deploy dynamic linked apps without any dependencies on the libraries
> on the host. It works just fine with musl-as-it-is, including the
> questionably designed applications like busybox and gcc who
> analyze argv[0].
>
> > at this time. Perhaps adding an option like --argv0=foo would be
> > appropriate.
>
> What would be the justification for adding the supporting code (to every
> instance of the dynamic loader)?
>
> It looks like --argv0=foo is meant to overcome a specific limitation in
> bourne shell, in a specific context where the task can be solved easily
> and generally better without involving the bourne shell in the first hand.
>
> I would like to see an example of a situation where a wrapper in C (or
> any language allowing setting of argv[0]) is less appropriate?
>
> If one really has a reason to express the wrapper in sh, a one-liner in
> C and an extra exec from the shell (much cheaper than starting the
> shell itself was) is sufficient to make it work.
>
> Rune
>
> Hi Rune - would you mind sharing some tips on doing that?

I wrote and compiled a short program that just dumps the elements in argv,
then a wrapper program that figures out the needed paths for libc, real
binary, etc, but it seems like argv[0] gets reset by the dynamic loader.

I'm calling execve with the path to the libc.so, and argv is somenthing
like:

argv[0] - desired process name
argv[1] - full path to the real binary
argv[2...] arguments

The 'real' binary is loaded and ran, but winds up printing out:

argv[0] - full path to the real binary
argv[1...] arguments

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-17 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-17  0:38 John Regan
2017-05-17  9:01 ` u-uy74
2017-05-17 11:00   ` mzpqnxow
2017-05-17 16:07     ` mzpqnxow
2017-05-17 16:16       ` John Regan
2017-05-17 16:24         ` Rich Felker
2017-05-17 19:07           ` u-uy74
2017-05-17 19:16             ` John Regan [this message]
2017-05-17 21:10               ` u-uy74
2017-05-17 21:15               ` mzpqnxow
2017-05-17 21:22                 ` John Regan
2017-07-02 17:36           ` u-uy74
2017-07-04 20:58             ` Rich Felker
2017-07-05  6:01               ` u-uy74
2017-07-09  9:23               ` u-uy74
2017-07-09 12:23                 ` Rich Felker
2017-07-09 14:04                   ` u-uy74

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