From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/7019 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Raphael Cohn Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: What would make musl 1.2? Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 15:20:33 +0530 Message-ID: References: <20150213074603.GA975@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <1836.1423820294@CATHET.us> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113d37ccf46c35050ef52a67 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423821054 1274 80.91.229.3 (13 Feb 2015 09:50:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 09:50:54 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-7032-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Fri Feb 13 10:50:53 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YMCth-00028K-8v for gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:50:53 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 17472 invoked by uid 550); 13 Feb 2015 09:50:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 17408 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2015 09:50:45 -0000 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MJ0rnP2R/KNxui/vxoaTMraXF9sCsoMajItHAmgT7o0=; b=XTtThO9+fR44MClJzkKgnZCiU78ASK0ks9XmP7Z4JqzRMsacSLSXKvPRHgjElj+7gY 6WywdCX1bSjh+TEAeSbTOQaZLb6ZX1q1CVQmy1fqvzH3H/d6CrT6Ifosz3ApxweFRBM8 yVA/E8FbRgNj82DOH3S4d5NAIp8tZiqSaScLF4MrV1wSaBV5sIEBdDKReRvIbH0VlMhh YlwQcPo7FjiqtYiaa82QBfV/q7hGWLRqr8VSak3x11A4N02nQQityhMBNDpCr0eXGpsy w9XaYqZpy9dTrQj2V7COoK7ATkwAX0ExWxb+A1rTuekmN8CvodmcD+9ZIm6aOw1EoZ9t oaxw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkU9UIN3tJct4XKHL9dWon9S+cjoHtX1AKOu8PoXlMDNNT3oesX69MSUo9UiM8inCsUZE8r X-Received: by 10.202.216.68 with SMTP id p65mr5624556oig.4.1423821033982; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 01:50:33 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [117.223.141.113] In-Reply-To: <1836.1423820294@CATHET.us> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:7019 Archived-At: --001a113d37ccf46c35050ef52a67 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Do they use a third party support lib? If it's possible to support use cases with a third party lib, then I'm less concerned - provided that that lib also works with musl. Given the nature of ucontext, that may not be so. A musl native solution would be optimal for performance - and performance is a common reason for going down this route. It allows for far greater scale in certain server designs then either thread-per-connection or a thread-pool can do. Out of interest, how many packages are in the OpenBSD repository? How does it compare to Debian's, say? For me, Debian's repo contents is a yardstick of what Linux + Musl could be expected to work with. On 13 February 2015 at 15:08, Anthony J. Bentley wrote: > Raphael Cohn writes: > > Is there any possibility of adding in the ucontext.h functions? I know > > they're deprecated, but they're still widely used - particularly by go > for > > goroutines, IIRC. > > It's worth mentioning that OpenBSD doesn't have ucontext, so given the > size of its package repository (which also contains Go), ucontext can't > be *that* widely used. > > -- > Anthony J. Bentley > --001a113d37ccf46c35050ef52a67 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Do they use a third party support lib?

If it&#= 39;s possible to support use cases with a third party lib, then I'm les= s concerned - provided that that lib also works with musl. Given the nature= of ucontext, that may not be so. A musl native solution would be optimal f= or performance - and performance is a common reason for going down this rou= te. It allows for far greater scale in certain server designs then either t= hread-per-connection or a thread-pool can do.

Out of interest,= how many packages are in the OpenBSD repository? How does it compare to De= bian's, say? For me, Debian's repo contents is a yardstick of what = Linux + Musl could be expected to work with.

On 13 Feb= ruary 2015 at 15:08, Anthony J. Bentley <anthony@cathet.us> = wrote:
Raphael Cohn writ= es:
> Is there any possibility of adding in the ucontext.h functions? I know=
> they're deprecated, but they're still widely used - particular= ly by go for
> goroutines, IIRC.

It's worth mentioning that OpenBSD doesn't have ucontext, so= given the
size of its package repository (which also contains Go), ucontext can't=
be *that* widely used.

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Anthony J. Bentley

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