From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 27472 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2020 20:39:39 -0000 Received: from mother.openwall.net (195.42.179.200) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 22 Sep 2020 20:39:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 16038 invoked by uid 550); 22 Sep 2020 20:39:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-ID: Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com Received: (qmail 16011 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2020 20:39:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=E8t/wyaA6133G5eEhuIR8JBVzaMuHdAwFzsSZ8uqLkU=; b=ANTzzSkzk8nKUxtYzisnxWcOxmf6YH6ZfgVkOiIqoepwR+D1L4JWiTb0fCSRbCiFJu B0ZQD1scg/wWxVqxT2/uQbO1B/fIKwQikvV5x+io0oEg6PiR+4/N0ZelxkYO9pS3QAc0 Y9AHfoW24eZnuzageqqrIPUoyeGapS4C0W3mJ/rcQzpKCgvumK8NUnrcKLLH4HdVcWeO bR8R4kA5GRfATVSVpWu6vZCBDnWt4GsZFvOakYyw9d4hWuqIkMo45pxcxEhl9LaHxbl/ arEzqrA9oo24U312KGFgkg6dGiMhmiVDvX88yP3yFOJHq5II0FAuLaFEhDS9WyHg6iPI av0g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=E8t/wyaA6133G5eEhuIR8JBVzaMuHdAwFzsSZ8uqLkU=; b=p1Sv99Os8mHIwbBGPIuWe94dEJ5FzqpF+JyBpo42eA5gFqbhQjEbLWMWposRhRXsU0 BvuEOoDlji7gkvAa/rURRcWMXn8b9v/79Y+xlrxCSl5dmxEquYW0BiM9x3hmdLm2dmsM b4iUFy+T++pL3xm7q4mgbp+yJ7lRBv8UoWdOUqdlQE0yyvOxGwT1kk6NzeC2v74iY7QI cSAe0oIrR1gv86/C5DjRZbazafpLb1hBNNm9TGGm2JFzzwVTKQTTomly3w1Eqys51US4 Svw+KrjE0rZqmB5AOGVlzMWmfesnkiqoJzhrYvcouLK79Lj5v8j1oVGWK4NwtJCmM8vN QxUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532DENe2HF7yGmEM0jki5PPcHIuEL+2djrD4oscpl8us7MSgxBNK E/N6SJWQOuGYgqSOmOk2TQYUGS7NFln01qr3WPPlZvAbW98= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzYO9N6JnovjeZVVqp3s0Dlo5obSFCAsP6QqQ/9rkQr2gPbYrebhbnllrJYf2KZOmqk1O3gF3NwndHHWdeJhLE= X-Received: by 2002:a92:4a0c:: with SMTP id m12mr6212716ilf.238.1600807164984; Tue, 22 Sep 2020 13:39:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4768019.hHWyC0TzgU@omega> <20200920135629.GI2947641@port70.net> <20200920171446.GB3265@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <2533200.g9kxISXj3W@omega> <20200922184610.GI3265@brightrain.aerifal.cx> In-Reply-To: <20200922184610.GI3265@brightrain.aerifal.cx> From: Jeffrey Walton Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 16:39:12 -0400 Message-ID: To: musl@lists.openwall.com Cc: Bruno Haible , "Dmitry V. Levin" , config-patches@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [musl] Re: OS detection wrong on Alpine Linux 3.10 On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 2:46 PM Rich Felker wrote: > ... > > > There is one kinda legitimate purpose for detecting specifically musl: > > > > It is not your role to tell us which code we write is "legitimate" and > > which code is not. I am a grown-up programmer. > > I'm not trying to tell you you're not a grown-up programmer. I'm > trying to tell you that the answer to the question you're asking ("is > this musl?") is not meaningful for achieving what you presumably want > to achieve -- assisting the program using autoconf tests in > automatically producing a build that works on the intended host. That assumes a project is Autotools based. I know of at least four projects that don't use Autotools (or other similar programs) because they don't want the dependency (and problems that come with the dependency). Speaking from experience, Autotools is a mess, especially for C++ projects. I would not wish it on an enemy. Jeff