From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 32443 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2020 00:00:10 -0000 Received: from mother.openwall.net (195.42.179.200) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 16 Jun 2020 00:00:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 5501 invoked by uid 550); 16 Jun 2020 00:00:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-ID: Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com Received: (qmail 5483 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2020 00:00:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=qE2EyX33zx+OhWBaJw3qc2yf+V54Skc7IqJRNf3so1s=; b=ohN9vsf9DY9OOtJKwh+q1dqV7F0R5ouY5HLrp6KFhRB8U6re//29mSigi/RJX5pwDw WeaeXxyd7lq8sT4HhSBRnkTXcodrQpcJ5hzlJbnz46IdvtitNoO8fkBrPMZ/1EsYuRfu 886dPwsxQIlevnr0CVE+DvDgBV1emOQrTXWSGyKeGH7GUy/a35b1IIqfqLqgdeLqGq4d 0yDbEFfxUzpRwADG3VO4kE3wJAMnED/bUvbIavzmQIzJiHMn/QFGf9QgVTNqB6cDJUqS u3bg53wWkoRJlBHDMCXoZ+BxAwszTm8ZJqxPWMu736F5asMMqnJXC+kYxgoilUzY5mYQ jxlg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to :from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=qE2EyX33zx+OhWBaJw3qc2yf+V54Skc7IqJRNf3so1s=; b=Ge6LYWZ7g5u1CX7ILAB7/q4gW01+OqcZDDeNeaoI9FR+4fTJUFgHnUuOZdFZD9QeeZ Ep28cPlbIgqaFBG77lmKr0zpf8C51RaySlY5yXE4sTDtpFK7TIZ+h2CSVHx54Iph1T2Y uBuE+x9mB/feVT+sJ8U3hYd5PWKpcjWfKghnxNk0kSrldoe0YFLC4VNXKP/sF/7he0Gf b+so2T6xYRd+RGzkNTCYw4pVWrkBWOgSmpqxhSt7sEU37NOb3uokbQpkgv2dsXxajD6k uKlVh0bBQsU8F/Ad72YQA7PoixgDVfhnZVjHF98gkLDt1FECHapeIE8r6NxZ5Jfkjavn Ajdw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531xsTLrICgYkuXw5qnfPMv8UQ3WOiS146nx+XtBc7QwRmDPskjH v5mcLKgGdBW3heGTS9otsrK3YB+OJr3HSIrL9FVP63j6 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzD+qOnxlFP6uEgnZ4rvPwJySSSsuFDrKGvioi2R6d7UcEa5Fz6troH0Qo2GZdvvQrH2+//ELorLS3aIaDbRSE= X-Received: by 2002:a92:dc89:: with SMTP id c9mr525719iln.238.1592265592977; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 16:59:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Jeffrey Walton Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 19:59:25 -0400 Message-ID: To: musl@lists.openwall.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [musl] Advocating musl to in windows subsystem and OS X On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 1:11 PM Brian Peregrine wrote: > > Hey all, > > after thinking about my previous post (Advocating musl to the chromium > OS developers ), it struck me that both Microsoft and Apple use some > sort of libc too (Microsoft has the "subsystem for linux" on windows > 10 now, and Apple's OS X is based on linux too -I think it was based > on the "Darwin" linux distro. > > Microsoft probably uses glibc (as the subsystem seems to be > canonical-made and they use glibc in ubuntu), for os x, I'm not sure > what is being used. > See https://itsfoss.com/install-bash-on-windows/ > https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/microsoft-linux-distros-windows-10/ > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3601092 > > In either case, Rich, perhaps you can propose to both that they use > musl, and point them to your comparison > (http://www.etalabs.net/compare_libcs.html ) ? > Also, perhaps that comparison can have Bionic added too and compared > to that as well ? > > Perhaps it's most appropriate to do this through posting an issue at > their relevant repo's (for MS, it's > https://github.com/microsoft/WSL2-Linux-Kernel/issues , for apple > (https://github.com/apple ), I'm not sure which repo holds the libc. Small nit... I believe OS X is closer to NetBSD than Linux. Or at least the useland tools like sed, awk, grep are anemic like the BSDs. Jeff