From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/14215 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Brian Peregrine Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: Adapting binaries easily to musl, or database with binaries (musl) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2019 09:33:32 +0000 Message-ID: Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="230165"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-14231-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Sat Jun 08 11:33:53 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by blaine.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hZXjQ-000xfx-O2 for gllmg-musl@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 11:33:48 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 19761 invoked by uid 550); 8 Jun 2019 09:33:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-ID: Original-Received: (qmail 19726 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2019 09:33:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=7xYT9TO2E4hvgeBFKZejOgpOIzxLbo3pU8i75huRYQc=; b=sX1mEI3+nuW1QKGfsQ0VW9s+tehB1vISpqRutfc+vjYdKY8eUWpQ2fkkotL09B7vEI 22vCxG62qoHbInwFpFTK7gqTCpl2XeOfxMlW6Bhjx00cS5TvlLO7MkBQw8YgRK0fuy52 bs1Y8TyRTZizlmDt759Z2+DxqwhIZQnzQO5QVSrdo5xRByhy3j+8vftdHOUwkpFSwV8Y 49wELEWlKBZeKZ4xYekFIN/75XEL8joApmrq9dd/V0z8MyDKvVBivhh6MfXqh0oSyL49 7TuRbYFzM8UCJS0xSpaJv8ebmQHzWOaBkVllZjcmDbCCh+LneXJTSnZAlcmwuutu74vZ Pq3Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=7xYT9TO2E4hvgeBFKZejOgpOIzxLbo3pU8i75huRYQc=; b=Mba4yAqRJb9wmhw7OqgpPKY6Zg6LJeHvET2lBA0BjpVA8N28utLBkuADX5/JxRqosW 1WdigSnl3u6eHUlYukSd6QirJnNyROmdrjCdqEYKmQR5SDMCcmmzweNXAbAdpp0jwv62 oCYy1hE04+HBFFkV9AqLtS3M8OhjN7BLy8I0E+QTDF7Bw/BocXlKi5+XDT5DOB7csFRM CKDdAUZpPQvzgZdNhlcWAogRBN3znhUfVlx+t89D8Qkk5wZt7ZPKVeMuqo9sBcG3zyl5 T0voySwak2v3Bh2USJgKRsLSQBpIUJqxB4EfVLAwzAWcc9X/WhfCS99pF1MFqJQmIgk5 8Emg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWgqIVn6nTxgU0/hozoU2R6gqgB6/kbni+TCa3P9OEQcl8I+WrD kdtnPHjY5mEa+1fSCRLfIU0NfZs21fDmZsDsH+ZU1aNl X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzBP44HW61BVZ41xO/iJ2s86VyC0c45kZCpsaJQs+nACb65iox4xXpk9daALM1UoStm65XIz6zl7EPB5UA0lu8= X-Received: by 2002:a67:d089:: with SMTP id s9mr9988690vsi.226.1559986413486; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 02:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:14215 Archived-At: Hey Alex, awilfox, I looked at https://distfiles.adelielinux.org/adelie/1.0-beta3/user/pmmx/ but those are apk packages. I actually want something that avoids users needing to compile non-standard programs themselves and have these technical (compiling) skills to begin with. I'm not familiar with apk packages; can these simply be unzipped (ie with xarchiver) and can the unzipped files then run directly in gentoo (same as with a binary) ? If so, then it would be suitable (installation with APK Tools wouldn't be suitable as we have ). I don't care too much with these on whether it's for i586 and not i686 as long as it runs and people can download the file quickly and run without too much fuss (the extraction step doesn't add that much time compared to compiling it, ...), mainly as it's just a 2nd browser that would not be used often, except in special cases. For TAZ, VCT Labs compiles the standard gentoo packages and makes sure it runs under musl, in TAZ. So technically, there's not reason why we can't do this for firefox, and simply include that program (firefox) in our distro. Why haven't we done, you might ask. Reason is that we already have a browser (Palemoon) and this has been made to run under musl. However, for only certain websites (github for instance) it doesn't work, even when using (recent firefox or chrome user agent strings). I don't want to add another browser in our distro since that would be (most of the time) redundant and I want TAZ users to use Palemoon (as that focuses on security and simplicity more). We also have git-scm but that doesn't allow to do all functions github has (for instance, changing the profile photo, modifying git issues, ...) and I think that it's also annoying to need to use git-scm when you need to change just a few lines on your repo (which in the browser, would take far less time to do then with git-scm).