From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24358 invoked from network); 20 May 2020 16:38:01 -0000 Received: from mother.openwall.net (195.42.179.200) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 May 2020 16:38:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 18145 invoked by uid 550); 20 May 2020 16:37:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-ID: Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com Received: (qmail 15607 invoked from network); 20 May 2020 16:30:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3SnYY3z+E1ejlDcQ7YfipM4CI+tAUIlKJ2ozpv9nDZo=; b=KtGlFmC1k+yCd7CZyyfayT1Aj+nhqXjWJP4oLLeHiysJePR+iypDrL4xKb74+U9FOm eijLvg0oZS/EEz+T//vmbpYz/Cq/gS0+Xkb/pC21/xs2D40QFfu5CAaxLbXaCqsEOZtf 1fKwiXLBSOLF2wBzjTQL7sH6NSqRnI9rKWaNqtjo6JjuhZP2VMPO9DOZfoN5sN5L5jsd CDROUR1d0qkL+BAu6ETUlqsNfZlSQoUVmAkrvyKqXsgThbI+Ysch32JQJQuxQsVBq+Ii XlTdumNVUPssqb7yMg9FdWxlbbZ2pOGhsS6BjzEgkvu5oUhKVXyLsMgrGgpZrIUwtpnD jRnA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3SnYY3z+E1ejlDcQ7YfipM4CI+tAUIlKJ2ozpv9nDZo=; b=F/PgC/iTnau1UQ1uw8iq0cAn9qc/v3ZOJnvPMg+eShWOifHercKcMPnObYqaKnCu3J u4QmXTN717CEL8fxClZjYHhisF5vtV2b0wkfUkiHTSY3nAGC9pmTLo9vH4gQLv4sR7Lo GyX8t11AsoaKD8kZObuhzhdsNZeX3DzaJCLaW6V3MF5D4I8fw3GNTaagtR3fKFL4RrXU VB4XX8aG+pvsP7jkbYdvUTATYpeFKDhYoArKqh7p0Bztm+FArLF207Tid0ptEceBctWo FJoWPY1Ss5XOeMTes3p8f8dn7e7wgLy0IeAHMWggHUxWtnFnhPRogYNEYIb9/wiADDBU aOcA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531EEVns1yS7+YYYkXzmDmlNlPGlJdtadBfbo14XhGnkcUEZlQGm WXbcnjt4uShimD8MxJ4Sr98OprEmpvJw6QzErAeVAoFX X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz/bSmBKCLNL7QsPr9QPwSv+46ZzpJQRrbE+Kjni3UCwKD3ZfbP9F7GF19vZcyemodlkb2asGY1HasYnbbNaQ4= X-Received: by 2002:a67:f890:: with SMTP id h16mr4019070vso.193.1589992244218; Wed, 20 May 2020 09:30:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200215172923.GR1663@brightrain.aerifal.cx> References: <20200215172923.GR1663@brightrain.aerifal.cx> From: Brian Peregrine Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 18:30:43 +0200 Message-ID: To: musl@lists.openwall.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [musl] Re: Musl gentoo development: browsers So far, there has been no progress on the creation of those browser scripts I mentioned last time. No binaries were made so far either. Main problem hindering further development is lack of funding as for the actual development work everything falls on Stephanie and I consider (financial) compensation for her paramount. She hasn't received much donations through the funding link at github (github.com/Sharrisii/TAZ) so that's not working. A possible solution I came up with is just dropping Chromium and replacing it with Brave instead. The idea here is that since Brave generates money for its users (you get paid from advertisements); that money can be sent back to us by musl users that will also use the (musl) Brave browser we could create binaries for. Similarly, they can support our other development work (Palemoon musl, firefox musl, and our musl distro (TAZ). The system is called BAT (Basic Attention Tokens). Anyway let me know if there are any enthusiasts out there that would indeed support us. They can just deposit a small sum trough the button on our repo, or directly at https://www.paypal.me/teamlc You can donate less then 5$ or so, since it takes a while to get to 5$ with BATs (or so I assume, giving the page on token giveaways, see https://brave.com/million/ ). If I read correctly on the pages on BATs, you can then deposit the 5$ you earned later-on through the system back to your own deposit account, meaning you can compensate the sum and actually did no expense whatsoever. Don't shoot me if I'm wrong on all this, check it out yourself first. But I think I'm correct ... If there are enthusiasts, I'll mention the idea to Stephanie to see whether she is interested in it, and whether she is interested in registering as a Brave creator (https://creators.brave.com/ ). The other thing is that I got no idea how much work she'll have on it and thus the amount of people needing to donate to get this done. It's just an idea to get this done (and could perhaps support other musl development projects too). If there are any others developers that are interested in tackling the scripts for fun, go right ahead (and let me know). Then, this whole setup wouldn't be needed. If the thing succeeds, Stephanie can make a repo specifically for holding the ebuild scripts, and the binaries produced from it can be put on I read the basic (non-musl) scripts should be on https://github.com/brave , after reading that someone else already tried to make a gentoo Brave package once. See https://community.brave.com/t/would-like-to-bring-brave-to-gentoo-but-h= ow-to-install-the-result-of-a-build/107969 Brian On 2/15/20, Rich Felker wrote: > On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 03:20:08PM +0100, Brian Peregrine wrote: >> I probably need to clarify the approach further. >> The idea is to have something (more precisely a script) which is >> intented specifically for gentoo (not all linux variants; not that the >> pull is to the gentoo/musl repo btw). Once that's ready, a binary can >> be made. Speaking for our own distro, it can be used on the optional >> usb stick >> (https://github.com/Sharrisii/TAZ_optional_usb_stick/tree/master/binarie= s >> ). I assume these binaries can then also be shared and used with >> non-gentoo based linux versions (if generic compiler flags are used, >> which is also the idea). >> >> Interested people can work on improving the files in the pull >> (https://github.com/gentoo/musl/pull/296 ) and then having these >> improvements added to the pull. >> >> Adelie's firefox-esr version is 68.5.0, jakeogh's version (in pull) is >> v.41 so Adelie's version is indeed newer. Current is v73, so still >> needs to be improved it further. So yes, you could already switch this >> in the pull. >> The binary I used of Adelie (v52.9.0-r4, back in June 2019) didn't >> work, and wasn't optimized for i686 cpu's (and also, Adelie linux is >> based on abuild system rather then gentoo's portage system), so I am >> somewhat cautious. That said, if the script is worked out further, >> there may be no issues. > > AIUI Ad=C3=A9lie follows -esr for which 68 is latest; is that incorrect? > Alpine has 73 in the testing repo. > > Rich >