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From: enh <enh@google.com>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Cc: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Subject: Re: [musl] PAC/BTI Support on aarch64
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 13:34:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJgzZoqy294CRN3s5oKaFZY8Uca9Za98vDoRjzQBmKtg4OjHrQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFftDdpoPk_=OQAZeohTWL4j6NcNte_eOG=euEq2u+WQYDSY2w@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 1:26 PM William Roberts
<bill.c.roberts@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 12:42 PM Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 10:38:50AM -0600, William Roberts wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I was just wondering if there was any work being done to support PAC
> > > and BTI in aarch64? I could add support but didn't want to duplicate
> > > the work.
> >
> > I'm not aware of any active work on this, but before writing a full
> > implementation, it would be really helpful to start with a basic
> > proposal for the scope of changes needed to make it work to assess
> > whether these are manageable and acceptable cost.
>
> It's a matter of building with -mbranch-protection=standard
>
> Just the ASM labels need the first instruction to be a BTI. They're in
> the NOP space
> so they are backwards compatible, older hardware will just NOP it.
>
> It's been done for many projects, glibc and bionic have it. The
> problem with BTI is that when one item in the link
> list doesn't support BTI the loader/linker turns it off. So when it's
> something like a libc that is fundamental in the link chain,
> it turns it off for everything.

note that bionic was quite sneaky, and if you look at bionic's arm64
.S files, you'll think we _haven't_ done the BTI work... we hid the
`bti c` instruction in the implementation of our ENTRY() macro
[https://android.googlesource.com/platform/bionic/+/main/libc/private/bionic_asm_arm64.h#48]
and similarly the ELF note you need is hidden by macros too
[https://android.googlesource.com/platform/bionic/+/main/libc/private/bionic_asm_arm64.h#60].

> The initial scope of code changes would be what's reported when
> LDFLAGS=-Wl,-zforce-bti,--fatal-warnings
>
> /usr/bin/ld: obj/src/fenv/aarch64/fenv.lo: warning: BTI turned on by
> -z force-bti when all inputs do not have BTI in NOTE section.
> /usr/bin/ld: obj/src/ldso/aarch64/dlsym.lo: warning: BTI turned on by
> -z force-bti when all inputs do not have BTI in NOTE section.
> /usr/bin/ld: obj/src/ldso/aarch64/tlsdesc.lo: warning: BTI turned on
> by -z force-bti when all inputs do not have BTI in NOTE section.
> /usr/bin/ld: obj/src/process/aarch64/vfork.lo: warning: BTI turned on
> by -z force-bti when all inputs do not have BTI in NOTE section.
> /usr/bin/ld: obj/src/setjmp/aarch64/longjmp.lo: warning: BTI turned on
> by -z force-bti when all inputs do not have BTI in NOTE section.
> /usr/bin/ld: obj/src/setjmp/aarch64/setjmp.lo: warning: BTI turned on
> by -z force-bti when all inputs do not have BTI in NOTE section.
> /usr/bin/ld: obj/src/signal/aarch64/restore.lo: warning: BTI turned on
> by -z force-bti when all inputs do not have BTI in NOTE section.
> /usr/bin/ld: obj/src/signal/aarch64/sigsetjmp.lo: warning: BTI turned
> on by -z force-bti when all inputs do not have BTI in NOTE section.
> /usr/bin/ld: obj/src/string/aarch64/memcpy.lo: warning: BTI turned on
> by -z force-bti when all inputs do not have BTI in NOTE section.
> /usr/bin/ld: obj/src/string/aarch64/memset.lo: warning: BTI turned on
> by -z force-bti when all inputs do not have BTI in NOTE section.
> /usr/bin/ld: obj/src/thread/aarch64/__set_thread_area.lo: warning: BTI
> turned on by -z force-bti when all inputs do not have BTI in NOTE
> section.
> /usr/bin/ld: obj/src/thread/aarch64/__unmapself.lo: warning: BTI
> turned on by -z force-bti when all inputs do not have BTI in NOTE
> section.
> /usr/bin/ld: obj/src/thread/aarch64/clone.lo: warning: BTI turned on
> by -z force-bti when all inputs do not have BTI in NOTE section.
> /usr/bin/ld: obj/src/thread/aarch64/syscall_cp.lo: warning: BTI turned
> on by -z force-bti when all inputs do not have BTI in NOTE section.
>
> >
> > Rich

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-12 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-12 16:38 William Roberts
2024-02-12 18:42 ` Rich Felker
2024-02-12 21:25   ` William Roberts
2024-02-12 21:34     ` enh [this message]
2024-02-12 22:46     ` Rich Felker
2024-02-12 23:05       ` enh
2024-02-12 23:18         ` William Roberts
2024-02-13  2:08           ` Rich Felker
2024-02-13 14:47             ` William Roberts
2024-02-13 17:51               ` Markus Wichmann
2024-02-14  2:19                 ` Rich Felker
2024-02-14  3:19                   ` William Roberts
2024-02-14  4:44                   ` Markus Wichmann
2024-02-14 13:32                     ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-02-14 14:03                       ` Rich Felker
2024-02-14 14:12                         ` Thorsten Glaser
2024-02-15 13:29                   ` Stefan O'Rear
2024-02-15 14:06                     ` Rich Felker
2024-03-02 14:33                       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-03-02 14:45                         ` Rich Felker
2024-02-15  0:03             ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-02-15  0:22               ` enh
2024-02-15  9:18                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-02-19 23:54   ` Fangrui Song
     [not found]   ` <DS7PR12MB57659BC5D5536574D1B91D26CB502@DS7PR12MB5765.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
2024-02-20  6:21     ` Anton Korobeynikov

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