enh,
on Fri, 23 Sep 2022 16:52:53 -0700 you (enh <enh@google.com>) wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 8:40 AM Jₑₙₛ Gustedt <jens.gustedt@inria.fr>
> wrote:
>
> > enh,
> >
> > on Fri, 23 Sep 2022 08:28:52 -0700 you (enh <enh@google.com>) wrote:
> >
> > > since you asked for comments, it would have been even better to
> > > have direct links to the relevant documents (such as
> > > https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/WG14/www/docs/n2829.htm for the
> > > assert() changes),
> >
> > yes, the idea is to add such a link when I manage to discuss the
> > particular feature more in detail
> >
>
> that...
wow, that's pushy
apologies if it came across that way, but it was actually meant in the opposite sense...
> > my hope is also still that we may have a diff-version of the C
> > standard at some point in the nearer future, but it seems that the
> > editors have problems with the tooling for that
> >
>
> ...and that sound even better, yes --- but i always worry about "the
> perfect is the enemy of the good". a 20% solution today is worth more
> to me than a 100% solution a year from now :-)
Much as musl, the C standard is a volunteer project. Instead of
reclaiming things you should ask yourself how can you or your company
help.
As all volunteer work, this is best effort. WG14 would have a much
better stand if more of the industry would inject real work force into
the committee. Currently there seem only be two of the bigger players
that have people there that substantially work on the C standard
during their office hours. The others are mostly academics like myself
and people working in their free time.
...specifically: given that we're _all_ just doing this in "spare" time because new c language/library features aren't a priority for anyone i know[1], i think it's _especially_ important to avoid the perfect being the enemy of the good ... a wiki somewhere that we can all edit now, say, is better than a great doc that isn't ready _because_ we can all help. (i'd have added the Nxxxx links for the ones i looked up as i was reading your summary, for example.)
(since i see he's on this thread, credit to florian weimer's co-ordination list --- that stands out as probably the most useful thing we have in the implementor community right now.)
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1. unlike things that make a significant difference to safety/correctness, such as "move to rust".
Thanks
Jₑₙₛ
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