From: Paul Schutte <sjpschutte@gmail.com>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: GLOB_BRACE
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 00:46:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKHv7pjewwgz-Xx8MzKgnX5TaSqXBy9JLwm63DUBgy23n--ndg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130923150323.GH20515@brightrain.aerifal.cx>
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"For us, things are easy. systemd is not meeting a need or doing
anything better than the much simpler, more reliable tools we already
have."
Can you guys maybe point me in the direction of these tools please ?
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 04:35:25PM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
> > On 23/09/13 16:08, Rob Landley wrote:
> > > systemd is the second coming of devfsd. A lot of us are waiting for it
> > > to blow over.
> >
> > Given the economic and PR support it won't blow over easily if
> > alternatives on par on the PR side won't appear.
> >
> > Keep in mind that pigs can fly just nicely if propelled adequately. The
> > landing could be problematic though.
>
> The problem is that, for the audience it's designed for, systemd is a
> big step up. Previously they were using hideous bash scripts full of
> pidfile races for starting and stopping services, etc.
>
> For us, things are easy. systemd is not meeting a need or doing
> anything better than the much simpler, more reliable tools we already
> have. But unfortunately there's a risk of it getting imposed on people
> who don't need it, and drastically blocking hopes to make the core
> system robust, because it's hard to do better than systemd in its own
> area, and there are commercially-relevant groups who care about that
> area. And of course you have the issue that it's absorbing other
> critical components like udev that everybody needs and making it
> impossible to use them without systemd.
>
> Rich
>
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Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-15 20:57 GLOB_BRACE Paul Schutte
2013-09-16 12:50 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-16 13:40 ` GLOB_BRACE Paul Schutte
2013-09-16 13:47 ` GLOB_BRACE Justin Cormack
2013-09-16 13:51 ` GLOB_BRACE Luca Barbato
2013-09-16 14:18 ` GLOB_BRACE Paul Schutte
2013-09-23 14:08 ` GLOB_BRACE Rob Landley
2013-09-23 14:35 ` GLOB_BRACE Luca Barbato
2013-09-23 15:03 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-23 15:21 ` GLOB_BRACE Kurt H Maier
2013-09-23 15:27 ` GLOB_BRACE Luca Barbato
2013-09-25 22:46 ` Paul Schutte [this message]
2013-09-26 0:02 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-26 3:35 ` GLOB_BRACE Luca Barbato
2013-09-26 4:48 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-26 18:23 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-26 18:30 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-26 18:38 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-26 18:50 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-26 18:59 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-26 19:10 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-26 19:13 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-26 19:24 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-26 19:06 ` GLOB_BRACE John Spencer
2013-09-26 20:21 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-26 20:41 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-27 12:23 ` GLOB_BRACE Anthony G. Basile
2013-09-27 12:53 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-27 13:06 ` GLOB_BRACE Daniel Cegiełka
2013-09-29 21:51 ` GLOB_BRACE Anthony G. Basile
2013-09-29 21:57 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-26 19:16 ` GLOB_BRACE Christian Neukirchen
2013-09-23 15:18 ` GLOB_BRACE Rob Landley
2013-09-23 15:31 ` GLOB_BRACE Kurt H Maier
2013-09-23 15:54 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
2013-09-23 17:22 ` GLOB_BRACE Rob Landley
2013-09-23 19:55 ` GLOB_BRACE Rich Felker
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