From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/3650 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Strake Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: embedded newbies site. Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 22:18:20 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1373940214.3719.5@driftwood> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1373944711 17244 80.91.229.3 (16 Jul 2013 03:18:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:18:31 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-3654-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Tue Jul 16 05:18:34 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uyvmb-0005BK-Dv for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:18:33 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 5250 invoked by uid 550); 16 Jul 2013 03:18:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 5241 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2013 03:18:32 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=vMz+1s+CX+95uukvRuMmOTPMWFIL0LJ3SjjAHsuDo20=; b=YFbY0HmTMX0bugPZ5JB+yV19nmjiwu1VI/jZfLpZ1g5FKQkq9Hyu8vNguvv0lOPxV1 frfmfcIqQkPwTeoySq15tvcYIAse5EfcYec7jHz49z2BbsN80qp8blzrssM69aYZhVL2 PFl+OZQtvufQkfKegg8G+Hdjd3Ha5SCVauRoniqaPcCSw9KJXUxICaZZ2Dk6kHRn2+09 ohDKUfs1V+3XiQIfls2jFgSDCz6J6M6SucrbwIupACwZfWwW5RiYr+iXZXhdfBeVGTR0 aCnDQQSJOaUUWmQXgAft6OhljJGYIjNCDtiiqsEM7Z69GiC2bA+kCTytLz7/hf4EL987 OHEg== X-Received: by 10.194.120.7 with SMTP id ky7mr33474058wjb.89.1373944700839; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 20:18:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1373940214.3719.5@driftwood> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:3650 Archived-At: On 15/07/2013, Rob Landley wrote: > - creating a development environment (building binutils, gcc, > make...) > - requirements for self-hosting > - requirements for natively building Linux From Scratch > - cross vs native compiling > - bootstrapping to native compiling under emulation. This. For me, at least, this is often the greatest hindrance. > - efficient (elegant) programming > - Why C and scritpting languages, why NOT C++ and autoconf > - tradeoffs > - code reuse > - transaction granularity > - taking advantage of SMP without going crazy I would be glad to help here. May find some ideas here: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/