From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 32331 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2022 19:53:46 -0000 Received: from second.openwall.net (193.110.157.125) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 Jul 2022 19:53:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 1296 invoked by uid 550); 11 Jul 2022 19:53:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-ID: Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com Received: (qmail 1273 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2022 19:53:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=mtGo3Npv1tXfny6H9HDxJKtj4smSxNg5vAylvf7uU9o=; b=fbSUua5E9xwXFPHFkmzgyOAYXz+hOwGwEwxfMR4ABxjyBd4W/lWUKKpGlz1nkCpO42 mTLjfw2I34ecMm2A750fi82ef9vAPCFOCtI7xPwxDgHKHsHpxYolnwMOcc7WphTPIHiV AC+FUDKTbhLma+O6AIuFdP7yUdUpcPwH54s9eWgBk5zh+Mgdyp8PEN5iF5sO6KbOsC2/ 6vk/EY0MVWUbgR5eC62YNNrueZD8/i/qqordcf/uDar0bOUGwCSbBkKzTGFeBgiw6Aai x9pkhDIGCcolUj9PN1UXsNTerQYvAylfP5dWKfLbZJ/5rPgfORTuV97bmjZQOn7vczEN HwVg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=mtGo3Npv1tXfny6H9HDxJKtj4smSxNg5vAylvf7uU9o=; b=WkrAxw+JDegmKzWWAg6RVRF5x5X/3wnoBmPzlPu/EKDAISFjd7VXAk3OH8QvcMYLhy xSEbZaOwARxL253Md4hcaR5Q63W3mqJZmYThkacMTAtjY0TX/oikvMm2d60oL4yKZEWg yCW6cgBSbds5aYxMVAn54LjwlugsltmKC04IvPfLIK/4q84ofZ+qAZYV8lhFBuA71/0H mJwBAZYaGgJN0SlB59McTsF/cH9UHkVjAQlURSF9w9X2F1Zzbe/ng7B9/VPHjW7hKk7y P+JX151dsYjREcUeg6ofAHh9mpaUExCo1elpsdZwiegUhvLBBvo5rePQfWePtntbxdgf ApCA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora84+9EW9/sCqoFxPtXWQ5Uhp3Ba8zIM/tdYFNPPl2qkCOrtHcVm cxqah1MLg0w32SRq+TRIj7x0mWEsYmHt9q3vBmQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1vYYNC0WDVyJRMTlew8EzwNBgrXnjj+3X3SY6UtEFx4VBPbHVwh8VH3Yr+UVN8eT1vvcZrTemcgGGYP14yhJ08= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:254c:b0:43a:9e77:3b29 with SMTP id l12-20020a056402254c00b0043a9e773b29mr26797506edb.356.1657569211567; Mon, 11 Jul 2022 12:53:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <875yk48dbv.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> <874jzo6q0x.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> <20220711152205.GY7074@brightrain.aerifal.cx> In-Reply-To: <20220711152205.GY7074@brightrain.aerifal.cx> From: Tomasz Duda Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 21:53:20 +0200 Message-ID: To: Rich Felker Cc: Florian Weimer , musl@lists.openwall.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000bd21a05e38ce82e" Subject: Re: [musl] AF_LOCAL --0000000000000bd21a05e38ce82e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I love alpine since it is small distribution which have a lot of packages. The problem is that I ended up patching libc during building docker image. I guess that I'm not only one who meet this problem. For most users it would be deal breaker. https://github.com/pikvm/kvmd/pull/101/commits/5698bf29d5948e79bffd9a7bebee= c77e39d8f18f#diff-dd2c0eb6ea5cfc6c4bd4eac30934e2d5746747af48fef6da689e85b75= 2f39557 pon., 11 lip 2022 o 17:22 Rich Felker napisa=C5=82(a): > On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 05:04:15PM +0900, Tomasz Duda wrote: > > Done is better than perfect. It prevents some applications from startin= g > so > > it is pretty bad. > > No, inconsistent is worse than not at all. Not-at-all forces > applications to fix the wrong assumption. Inconsistent means > applications compile and run but silently (in sense of not producing > an error at build and/or run time) do the wrong thing on some systems. > One of the main criteria for exclusion of an extension from musl is > the existence of multiple conflicting historical definitions for the > same extension. > > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 16:56 Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > > * Tomasz Duda: > > > > > > > It seems to be implemented in other libs. > > > > > > Yes, but not in a consistent fashion. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Florian > > > > > > > --0000000000000bd21a05e38ce82e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I love alpine since it is small distribution which ha= ve a lot of packages.
The problem is that I ended up patching lib= c during building docker image.
I guess that I'm not only one= who meet this problem. For most users it would be deal breaker.
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pon= ., 11 lip 2022 o 17:22=C2=A0Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> napisa=C5=82(a):
On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 05:04:15PM +0900, Toma= sz Duda wrote:
> Done is better than perfect. It prevents some applications from starti= ng so
> it is pretty bad.

No, inconsistent is worse than not at all. Not-at-all forces
applications to fix the wrong assumption. Inconsistent means
applications compile and run but silently (in sense of not producing
an error at build and/or run time) do the wrong thing on some systems.
One of the main criteria for exclusion of an extension from musl is
the existence of multiple conflicting historical definitions for the
same extension.


> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022, 16:56 Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > * Tomasz Duda:
> >
> > > It seems to be implemented in other libs.
> >
> > Yes, but not in a consistent fashion.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Florian
> >
> >
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