* Call for musl-based distro blurbs @ 2012-05-25 23:22 Rich Felker 2012-05-26 5:00 ` Kyle Sanderson ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Rich Felker @ 2012-05-25 23:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl Hi all, I'm planning to overhaul the musl website soon, and I'd like to include information on all distros/projects using musl. This will serve both to demonstrate musl's completeness and get some attention for projects based on musl. Supposedly everyone in #musl has a distro, so by now that should be quite a lot... ;-) Some things that would be good to include in a description of your projects would be the basic idea, what makes it unique, what new concepts/features/tools it's based on (e.g. package manager or build automation), the number of packages included or successfully built on it, etc. No definite ETA yet but I'll probably get the new website up somewhere between 0.9.1 and 0.9.2, assuming 0.9.1 doesn't run into any nasty release issues that require a quick 0.9.2 to replace it... Rich ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-05-25 23:22 Call for musl-based distro blurbs Rich Felker @ 2012-05-26 5:00 ` Kyle Sanderson 2012-05-26 5:06 ` Szabolcs Nagy 2012-06-07 13:55 ` gs 2012-06-08 2:06 ` Ivan Kanakarakis 2 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Kyle Sanderson @ 2012-05-26 5:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1044 bytes --] I was just looking for this today, I couldn't find any distros using Musl, sadly. Does anyone know of a distro using it? Kyle. On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx> wrote: > Hi all, > I'm planning to overhaul the musl website soon, and I'd like to > include information on all distros/projects using musl. This will > serve both to demonstrate musl's completeness and get some attention > for projects based on musl. Supposedly everyone in #musl has a distro, > so by now that should be quite a lot... ;-) > > Some things that would be good to include in a description of your > projects would be the basic idea, what makes it unique, what new > concepts/features/tools it's based on (e.g. package manager or build > automation), the number of packages included or successfully built on > it, etc. > > No definite ETA yet but I'll probably get the new website up somewhere > between 0.9.1 and 0.9.2, assuming 0.9.1 doesn't run into any nasty > release issues that require a quick 0.9.2 to replace it... > > Rich > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1466 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-05-26 5:00 ` Kyle Sanderson @ 2012-05-26 5:06 ` Szabolcs Nagy 0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Szabolcs Nagy @ 2012-05-26 5:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl * Kyle Sanderson <kyle.leet@gmail.com> [2012-05-25 22:00:25 -0700]: > Does anyone know of a distro using it? > https://github.com/rofl0r/sabotage ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-05-25 23:22 Call for musl-based distro blurbs Rich Felker 2012-05-26 5:00 ` Kyle Sanderson @ 2012-06-07 13:55 ` gs 2012-06-07 14:08 ` Szabolcs Nagy 2012-06-08 2:06 ` Ivan Kanakarakis 2 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: gs @ 2012-06-07 13:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl; +Cc: Rich Felker On 05/26/2012 01:22 AM, Rich Felker wrote: > Hi all, > I'm planning to overhaul the musl website soon, and I'd like to > include information on all distros/projects using musl. This will > serve both to demonstrate musl's completeness and get some attention > for projects based on musl. Supposedly everyone in #musl has a distro, > so by now that should be quite a lot... ;-) > > Some things that would be good to include in a description of your > projects would be the basic idea, what makes it unique, what new > concepts/features/tools it's based on (e.g. package manager or build > automation), the number of packages included or successfully built on > it, etc. > > No definite ETA yet but I'll probably get the new website up somewhere > between 0.9.1 and 0.9.2, assuming 0.9.1 doesn't run into any nasty > release issues that require a quick 0.9.2 to replace it... > > Rich > here's the blob for https://github.com/rofl0r/sabotage "this sabotage fork aims to stay up to date, and keep the core base system (busybox, development tools) statically compiled. it uses a hardened kernel and has experimental Xfbdev support. the package manager was written from scratch in C and aims to provide a parallel build experience. there are a couple of tweaks applied to make the whole system build in less than 40 minutes on a 8-core machine. the package manager allows to customize the build process using templates (possible use cases: automatic binary package generation, usage of a custom prefix...)" --JS ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-06-07 13:55 ` gs @ 2012-06-07 14:08 ` Szabolcs Nagy 2012-06-07 15:00 ` gs 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Szabolcs Nagy @ 2012-06-07 14:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl * gs@int3.at <gs@int3.at> [2012-06-07 15:55:34 +0200]: > whole system build in less than 40 minutes on a 8-core machine. the i know the system is big but 40 minutes does not sound too good.. i guess most of it is gcc and kernel compilation ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-06-07 14:08 ` Szabolcs Nagy @ 2012-06-07 15:00 ` gs 2012-06-07 14:49 ` Rich Felker 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: gs @ 2012-06-07 15:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl On 06/07/2012 04:08 PM, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > * gs@int3.at<gs@int3.at> [2012-06-07 15:55:34 +0200]: >> whole system build in less than 40 minutes on a 8-core machine. the > i know the system is big but 40 minutes does not sound too good.. > > i guess most of it is gcc and kernel compilation > altogether its more than 100 packages. stage0 (minimal bootstrap (gcc3/busybox/binutils/musl) chroot) takes about 2 minutes, stage1 (busybox, kernel, perl, gcc (c/c++) toolchain, syslinux, etc) ca 20 minutes, and pkg (gdb, nano, ncurses, lynx, ssl, ssh, curl, git, svn, alsa, openal, sdl, python, etc etc) + xorg about 15 minutes. xorg alone accounts for ~40 packages. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-06-07 15:00 ` gs @ 2012-06-07 14:49 ` Rich Felker 2012-06-07 15:40 ` Christian Neukirchen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Rich Felker @ 2012-06-07 14:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 05:00:24PM +0200, gs@int3.at wrote: > On 06/07/2012 04:08 PM, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > >i know the system is big but 40 minutes does not sound too good.. > altogether its more than 100 packages. > > stage0 (minimal bootstrap (gcc3/busybox/binutils/musl) chroot) takes > about 2 minutes, > stage1 (busybox, kernel, perl, gcc (c/c++) toolchain, syslinux, etc) > ca 20 minutes, and > pkg (gdb, nano, ncurses, lynx, ssl, ssh, curl, git, svn, alsa, > openal, sdl, python, etc etc) + xorg about 15 minutes. > xorg alone accounts for ~40 packages. It would be nice if perl could be part of pkg (and optional) instead of stage1... Rich ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-06-07 14:49 ` Rich Felker @ 2012-06-07 15:40 ` Christian Neukirchen 2012-06-07 15:47 ` Rich Felker 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Christian Neukirchen @ 2012-06-07 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx> writes: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 05:00:24PM +0200, gs@int3.at wrote: >> On 06/07/2012 04:08 PM, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: >> >i know the system is big but 40 minutes does not sound too good.. >> altogether its more than 100 packages. >> >> stage0 (minimal bootstrap (gcc3/busybox/binutils/musl) chroot) takes >> about 2 minutes, >> stage1 (busybox, kernel, perl, gcc (c/c++) toolchain, syslinux, etc) >> ca 20 minutes, and >> pkg (gdb, nano, ncurses, lynx, ssl, ssh, curl, git, svn, alsa, >> openal, sdl, python, etc etc) + xorg about 15 minutes. >> xorg alone accounts for ~40 packages. > > It would be nice if perl could be part of pkg (and optional) instead > of stage1... You need perl to compile the kernel. -- Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> http://chneukirchen.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-06-07 15:40 ` Christian Neukirchen @ 2012-06-07 15:47 ` Rich Felker 2012-06-07 16:12 ` gs 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Rich Felker @ 2012-06-07 15:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 05:40:01PM +0200, Christian Neukirchen wrote: > > It would be nice if perl could be part of pkg (and optional) instead > > of stage1... > > You need perl to compile the kernel. There's a simple patch (not more than a few lines IIRC) to fix that bug in the kernel. Rich ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-06-07 15:47 ` Rich Felker @ 2012-06-07 16:12 ` gs 2012-06-07 16:05 ` Jeremy Huntwork 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: gs @ 2012-06-07 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl; +Cc: Rich Felker On 06/07/2012 05:47 PM, Rich Felker wrote: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 05:40:01PM +0200, Christian Neukirchen wrote: >>> It would be nice if perl could be part of pkg (and optional) instead >>> of stage1... >> You need perl to compile the kernel. > There's a simple patch (not more than a few lines IIRC) to fix that > bug in the kernel. > > Rich > landley's no-perl fix is applied, but something else is still depending on it. iirc it has to do with the ssl-certificates package. I need to inspect what is causing the perl dependency this time. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-06-07 16:12 ` gs @ 2012-06-07 16:05 ` Jeremy Huntwork 2012-06-07 16:11 ` aep 2012-06-07 16:17 ` Daniel Cegiełka 0 siblings, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Jeremy Huntwork @ 2012-06-07 16:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl On 6/7/12 12:12 PM, gs@int3.at wrote: > landley's no-perl fix is applied, but something else is still depending > on it. > iirc it has to do with the ssl-certificates package. > I need to inspect what is causing the perl dependency this time. landley's no-perl patch is just for linux-headers installation script. It doesn't remove any kernel build-time perl deps (if there are any). Apart from linux, a major player that depends on perl is OpenSSL, since it's build system uses perl scripts. JH ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-06-07 16:05 ` Jeremy Huntwork @ 2012-06-07 16:11 ` aep 2012-06-07 16:17 ` Daniel Cegiełka 1 sibling, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: aep @ 2012-06-07 16:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:05:48 -0400, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > landley's no-perl patch is just for linux-headers installation > script. It doesn't remove any kernel build-time perl deps (if there > are any). Apart from linux, a major player that depends on perl is > OpenSSL, since it's build system uses perl scripts. > > JH Sure, build systems of the GNU stack are all horror, but why do you need perl on the _target_? Doesn't sound like anything needs it at runtime. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-06-07 16:05 ` Jeremy Huntwork 2012-06-07 16:11 ` aep @ 2012-06-07 16:17 ` Daniel Cegiełka 2012-06-07 16:16 ` Rich Felker 1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Daniel Cegiełka @ 2012-06-07 16:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 824 bytes --] 2012/6/7 Jeremy Huntwork <jhuntwork@lightcubesolutions.com> > On 6/7/12 12:12 PM, gs@int3.at wrote: > >> landley's no-perl fix is applied, but something else is still depending >> on it. >> iirc it has to do with the ssl-certificates package. >> I need to inspect what is causing the perl dependency this time. >> > > landley's no-perl patch is just for linux-headers installation script. It > doesn't remove any kernel build-time perl deps (if there are any). Apart > from linux, a major player that depends on perl is OpenSSL, since it's > build system uses perl scripts. > > Openssl needs perl to generate a asm code, so you can generate asm code and then use it as a patch and remove perl dependency. Definitely the removal of perl will not be easy... but possible. And what about autoconf (in perl)? regards, Daniel [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1471 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-06-07 16:17 ` Daniel Cegiełka @ 2012-06-07 16:16 ` Rich Felker 2012-06-07 16:38 ` Daniel Cegiełka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Rich Felker @ 2012-06-07 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 06:17:15PM +0200, Daniel Cegiełka wrote: > Openssl needs perl to generate a asm code, so you can generate asm code and > then use it as a patch and remove perl dependency. Definitely the removal > of perl will not be easy... but possible. Couldn't you just remove the idiotic asm generation and use the C code? It's the compiler's job, not the build scrips' job, to generate asm, and the compiler probably does a perfectly acceptable job, if not a better job... Rich ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-06-07 16:16 ` Rich Felker @ 2012-06-07 16:38 ` Daniel Cegiełka 2012-06-07 16:37 ` Rich Felker 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Daniel Cegiełka @ 2012-06-07 16:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 952 bytes --] 2012/6/7 Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx> > On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 06:17:15PM +0200, Daniel Cegiełka wrote: > > Openssl needs perl to generate a asm code, so you can generate asm code > and > > then use it as a patch and remove perl dependency. Definitely the removal > > of perl will not be easy... but possible. > > Couldn't you just remove the idiotic asm generation and use the C > code? It's the compiler's job, not the build scrips' job, to generate > asm, and the compiler probably does a perfectly acceptable job, if not > a better job... > > The problem is to maintain support for future versions. In my view, the option with generating the asm code is easier and fully compatible with openssl (code from openssl). By adding own implementations of the crypto algorithms one can also add his own bugs. With this issue we can ask the developers of openssl - ask how they see the idea to remove perl from openssl. Daniel [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1333 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-06-07 16:38 ` Daniel Cegiełka @ 2012-06-07 16:37 ` Rich Felker 2012-06-07 17:06 ` Luca Barbato 0 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Rich Felker @ 2012-06-07 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 06:38:34PM +0200, Daniel Cegiełka wrote: > > Couldn't you just remove the idiotic asm generation and use the C > > code? It's the compiler's job, not the build scrips' job, to generate > > asm, and the compiler probably does a perfectly acceptable job, if not > > a better job... > > > > > The problem is to maintain support for future versions. In my view, the > option with generating the asm code is easier and fully compatible with > openssl (code from openssl). By adding own implementations of the crypto > algorithms one can also add his own bugs. With this issue we can ask the > developers of openssl - ask how they see the idea to remove perl from > openssl. I'm nearly sure they have C versions of the code too for cpus they don't explicitly support. The asm is just a (premature) optimization, so removing it should not harm anyone. Rich ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-06-07 16:37 ` Rich Felker @ 2012-06-07 17:06 ` Luca Barbato 2012-06-07 17:19 ` Daniel Cegiełka 2012-06-07 17:39 ` Christian Neukirchen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Luca Barbato @ 2012-06-07 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl On 06/07/2012 06:37 PM, Rich Felker wrote: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 06:38:34PM +0200, Daniel Cegiełka wrote: >>> Couldn't you just remove the idiotic asm generation and use the C >>> code? It's the compiler's job, not the build scrips' job, to generate >>> asm, and the compiler probably does a perfectly acceptable job, if not >>> a better job... >>> >>> >> The problem is to maintain support for future versions. In my view, the >> option with generating the asm code is easier and fully compatible with >> openssl (code from openssl). By adding own implementations of the crypto >> algorithms one can also add his own bugs. With this issue we can ask the >> developers of openssl - ask how they see the idea to remove perl from >> openssl. > > I'm nearly sure they have C versions of the code too for cpus they > don't explicitly support. The asm is just a (premature) optimization, > so removing it should not harm anyone. Or since the aim is tiny, just use polarssl. lu -- Luca Barbato Gentoo/linux http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-06-07 17:06 ` Luca Barbato @ 2012-06-07 17:19 ` Daniel Cegiełka 2012-06-07 17:39 ` Christian Neukirchen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Daniel Cegiełka @ 2012-06-07 17:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 226 bytes --] > > Or since the aim is tiny, just use polarssl. > or matrixssl: http://www.matrixssl.org/ MatrixSSL is main SSL lib on LynxOS: http://www.lynuxworks.com/partners/show_product.php?ID=281 http://www.lynuxworks.com/ Daniel [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 715 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-06-07 17:06 ` Luca Barbato 2012-06-07 17:19 ` Daniel Cegiełka @ 2012-06-07 17:39 ` Christian Neukirchen 2012-06-07 17:49 ` Szabolcs Nagy 1 sibling, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Christian Neukirchen @ 2012-06-07 17:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl Luca Barbato <lu_zero@gentoo.org> writes: > On 06/07/2012 06:37 PM, Rich Felker wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 06:38:34PM +0200, Daniel Cegiełka wrote: >>>> Couldn't you just remove the idiotic asm generation and use the C >>>> code? It's the compiler's job, not the build scrips' job, to generate >>>> asm, and the compiler probably does a perfectly acceptable job, if not >>>> a better job... >>>> >>>> >>> The problem is to maintain support for future versions. In my view, the >>> option with generating the asm code is easier and fully compatible with >>> openssl (code from openssl). By adding own implementations of the crypto >>> algorithms one can also add his own bugs. With this issue we can ask the >>> developers of openssl - ask how they see the idea to remove perl from >>> openssl. >> >> I'm nearly sure they have C versions of the code too for cpus they >> don't explicitly support. The asm is just a (premature) optimization, >> so removing it should not harm anyone. > > Or since the aim is tiny, just use polarssl. Or, hey, let's start a mussl! -- Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> http://chneukirchen.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-06-07 17:39 ` Christian Neukirchen @ 2012-06-07 17:49 ` Szabolcs Nagy 0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Szabolcs Nagy @ 2012-06-07 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl * Christian Neukirchen <chneukirchen@gmail.com> [2012-06-07 19:39:00 +0200]: > > Or since the aim is tiny, just use polarssl. > > Or, hey, let's start a mussl! > ssl is deprecated, it would be mutls ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-05-25 23:22 Call for musl-based distro blurbs Rich Felker 2012-05-26 5:00 ` Kyle Sanderson 2012-06-07 13:55 ` gs @ 2012-06-08 2:06 ` Ivan Kanakarakis 2012-06-08 12:51 ` Szabolcs Nagy 2 siblings, 1 reply; 22+ messages in thread From: Ivan Kanakarakis @ 2012-06-08 2:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1185 bytes --] There is also lightcube [0] and snowflake [1] btw, sabotage also has a homepage [2] [0]: https://github.com/jhuntwork/lightcube-bootstrap-musl [1]: https://github.com/GregorR/snowflake [2]: http://chneukirchen.github.com/sabotage/ On 26 May 2012 02:22, Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx> wrote: > Hi all, > I'm planning to overhaul the musl website soon, and I'd like to > include information on all distros/projects using musl. This will > serve both to demonstrate musl's completeness and get some attention > for projects based on musl. Supposedly everyone in #musl has a distro, > so by now that should be quite a lot... ;-) > > Some things that would be good to include in a description of your > projects would be the basic idea, what makes it unique, what new > concepts/features/tools it's based on (e.g. package manager or build > automation), the number of packages included or successfully built on > it, etc. > > No definite ETA yet but I'll probably get the new website up somewhere > between 0.9.1 and 0.9.2, assuming 0.9.1 doesn't run into any nasty > release issues that require a quick 0.9.2 to replace it... > > Rich > -- *Ivan c00kiemon5ter V Kanakarakis* >:3 [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1886 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
* Re: Call for musl-based distro blurbs 2012-06-08 2:06 ` Ivan Kanakarakis @ 2012-06-08 12:51 ` Szabolcs Nagy 0 siblings, 0 replies; 22+ messages in thread From: Szabolcs Nagy @ 2012-06-08 12:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: musl * Ivan Kanakarakis <ivan.kanak@gmail.com> [2012-06-08 05:06:00 +0300]: > There is also lightcube [0] and snowflake [1] > btw, sabotage also has a homepage [2] > > [0]: https://github.com/jhuntwork/lightcube-bootstrap-musl > [1]: https://github.com/GregorR/snowflake > [2]: http://chneukirchen.github.com/sabotage/ > and bootstrap-linux by pikhq: https://github.com/pikhq/bootstrap-linux ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 22+ messages in thread
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