From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/2013 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Daniel_Cegie=B3ka?= Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: filesystem layout Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:51:03 +0200 Message-ID: References: <50618D43.2000704@gentoo.org> <50619404.6030207@gentoo.org> <20120925112629.GA44376@intma.in> <50619711.5000102@gentoo.org> <87d31agsfa.fsf@gmail.com> <5061B496.9020807@gentoo.org> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1348581105 29335 80.91.229.3 (25 Sep 2012 13:51:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 13:51:45 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-2014-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Tue Sep 25 15:51:47 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TGVY5-00046j-9Y for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:51:41 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 19973 invoked by uid 550); 25 Sep 2012 13:51:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 19964 invoked from network); 25 Sep 2012 13:51:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=oLtS97q5Goby8oGfEdUUlIqjWeDvYgWjB/+8D4mnFtk=; b=Vzp6uyi2o4mLDF92PwRY1675Vk0WWsfVw5cU8rR5NIRKAZn2UP0xCjj2vJ7AOu95gQ QZU2Q1PiQX3PNR/Ex68fLphULXiYEnqhiHdhjOJc86oXNg7TE05oM2cHKVbtruXtsVpo /KIll51V1emRqTFBDYMvNYCxkSDDfyFOZffW/f6twjt5dSsqUkJVy3MMOTQWfSlR2gsQ fGfLIql0bQgxPeXG9CG7/sHHD7xqEh9NXSYQvy5cbmanrb1hScFBc75dYvZ5Yuh3cZ5J S3QPDQon/jy+B6czRvsQqU94JXLddivP+bnic9R279Vuy+OlLdfRTYxyIZO31chzjWFT /zEg== In-Reply-To: <5061B496.9020807@gentoo.org> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:2013 Archived-At: 2012/9/25 Luca Barbato : > On 09/25/2012 03:09 PM, Christian Neukirchen wrote: >> Luca Barbato writes: >> >>> On 09/25/2012 01:26 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: >>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 01:22:44PM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Static linking could be dangerous from a security/maintainance >>>>> standpoint, but that is me looking at the specific scenarios in which >>>>> Gentoo shines. >>>> >>>> >>>> This is a common myth. lazy or ineffective system management is a >>>> danger regardless of the linking type. >>> >>> Spending lots of time unbundling dependencies from packages so they >>> could use the up-to-date shared version might bring you to have a bias. >>> >>> Any system management that force you to reinstall all your packages >>> because zlib had a bug doesn't seem efficient. >> >> Note that you need to *restart all programs using zlib* anyway. >> So what's the difference between >> >> tar xzpf base.tar.gz >> and >> tar xzpf zlib.tar.gz > > I guess the whole thing is derailing. You assume that you have a daemon > or some kind of permanent program, I'm considering all the programs, > permanent and transient. > > Even in your scenario > > sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.1-r2: 31 files, 16 non-files, 767.242 KB > > Updating zlib would take less than 1mb uncompressed. > > Updating a whole system few order of magnitude. not the whole :) scanelf -qyRF '%p %n' /bin/ | grep libz.so This can be done automatically by the installer (package manager). > Again, we are derailing the purpose of this mailing list. yup. Daniel