From: Nicholas Wilson <nicholas.wilson@realvnc.com>
To: "musl@lists.openwall.com" <musl@lists.openwall.com>
Subject: Re: Feature request: building musl in a portable way
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 18:01:35 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <VI1PR0502MB38856793F3F8C2500517A821E7020@VI1PR0502MB3885.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171222174922.GC1627@brightrain.aerifal.cx>
On 22 December 2017 17:49, Rich Felker wrote:
> A bit of a historical note on this: in the late 80s and 90s there was
> an effort called "iBCS" to make a unified ABI for Intel-based unices.
> I believe a common syscall layer was part of it. It was abandoned
> after everybody realized that the Linux syscall ABI _was_, for all
> practical purposes, the unified ABI they wanted.
That's pretty much where WebAssembly is going too! At the moment, the WebAssembly "embedding environment" (the webpage) has to provide a JavaScript implementation of the external dependencies of the WebAssembly module.
There is a desire to eventually standardise that a bit - at the moment it's "whatever Musl wants". I think the conclusion will be "emulate Linux everywhere". I'm expecting some small tweaks though. For example, traditionally timezone information is stored in userland and not available via a syscall: rather than special-case SYS_open for "/etc/localtime", we might add a Wasm-specific syscall for doing it. (Naturally, this would all be done in Wasm via an override in a Wasm-specific directory.)
So it will be "Linux syscalls" - but probably with a few tweaks (as indeed Linux syscalls already differ very slightly between architectures).
Nick
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-22 18:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-12-21 16:25 ardi
2017-12-21 21:38 ` Rich Felker
2017-12-22 16:09 ` ardi
2017-12-22 16:43 ` Rich Felker
2017-12-22 19:04 ` ardi
2017-12-23 8:18 ` Markus Wichmann
2017-12-23 20:57 ` ardi
2017-12-22 17:10 ` Nicholas Wilson
2017-12-22 17:49 ` Rich Felker
2017-12-22 18:01 ` Nicholas Wilson [this message]
2017-12-22 18:08 ` Rich Felker
2017-12-22 19:06 ` Nicholas Wilson
2017-12-22 19:27 ` ardi
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