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From: Markus Wichmann <nullplan@gmx.net>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [musl] __MUSL__ macro
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2023 17:19:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZKgtHM5qde3zeSOA@voyager> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACJ51z0riE9cbj5zoCXkEUX3Uust0WkYy7DA1OTnskjrj_27ZA@mail.gmail.com>

Am Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 11:02:21AM -0400 schrieb Andrew Bell:
> I guess I don't understand the opposition -- is there any downside to musl
> to having the macros defined, necessary or not? (I'm saying this as a
> minimalist, so I'm surprising myself here.)
>

Yes, it makes people write worse code. Not making the macros available
makes people write more portable code, which is a good thing. Sometimes
people have to be made to think for a moment, and broken out of their
rut, to get them to do the right thing.

There is also the issue of what exactly the macros mean. Between
distribution patches and backports, a version number does not
necessarily map to a feature or bug set. And musl does not want to have
any quirks, it wants to just be a POSIX implementation. So what
specialties are supposed to be kept in mind when the musl macro is
defined? Keep in mind that __GNUC__ also does not just mean gcc anymore.
These things keep going off the rails all the time.

Ciao,
Markus

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-07 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-06 10:48 Alastair Houghton
2023-07-06 12:17 ` Alex Xu
2023-07-06 16:26   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2023-07-07  7:14   ` Alastair Houghton
2023-07-07  7:30     ` A. Wilcox
2023-07-07  8:24       ` Alastair Houghton
2023-07-07 11:20     ` Laurent Bercot
2023-07-07 11:45     ` Jeffrey Walton
2023-07-07 13:53     ` Rich Felker
2023-07-07 14:18       ` Alastair Houghton
2023-07-07 12:47 ` Rich Felker
2023-07-07 13:14   ` Alastair Houghton
2023-07-07 14:19     ` Markus Wichmann
2023-07-07 14:26       ` Markus Wichmann
2023-07-07 14:46       ` Alastair Houghton
2023-07-07 15:02       ` Andrew Bell
2023-07-07 15:19         ` Markus Wichmann [this message]
2023-07-07 15:24           ` Andrew Bell
2023-07-07 15:34           ` Alastair Houghton
2023-07-07 15:45             ` Rich Felker
2023-07-07 15:58               ` Alastair Houghton
2023-07-07 15:05     ` i262jq

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