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From: Robert Clausecker <fuz@fuz.su>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [musl] strcmp() guarantees and assumptions
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2023 23:13:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZLRdasdXiHLTxKx7@fuz.su> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZLRF/Nnk8FBog2+4@voyager>

Hi Markus,

Am Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 09:33:16PM +0200 schrieb Markus Wichmann:
> Am Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 07:59:57PM +0200 schrieb Robert Clausecker:
> > That's good to hear.  Any idea on the “what do existing libc
> > implementations permit” bit?
> >
> 
> So I quickly checked musl, dietlibc, bionic, and glibc, and
> unsurprisingly, all of the implementations I looked at allow the strings
> to be unterminated if they mismatch before access becomes restricted.
> This is, of course, an implementation detail that applications must not
> rely on, but it nevertheless is the case.
> 
> The problem in your implementation is that the calls to strlen() will
> iterate over both input strings to the end, causing basically a cache
> flush for large inputs, only to then iterate over both inputs a second
> time. Iterating only once is a major benefit, since it avoids half of
> the cache misses.

Of course.  This was merely a simple example to demonstrate the general
point.  I of course do not plan to do anything like that.

> Also, glibc already has an SSE strcmp implementation you may want to
> look at.

I'm not going to look at glibc as it's LGPL licensed.  I am aware of the
Intel implementation, but I don't like that it has to duplicate the code
16 times for each possible misalignment pattern.  Without having to
ensure that a cacheline of data is only touched once we confirm there
is no previous mismatch, it might be possible to write simpler code, but
I'm currently not entirely sure how.

> Ciao,
> Markus

Yours,
Robert Clausecker

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-16 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-16 17:22 Robert Clausecker
2023-07-16 17:49 ` NRK
2023-07-16 17:59   ` Robert Clausecker
2023-07-16 19:24     ` Pedro Falcato
2023-07-16 19:29       ` Pedro Falcato
2023-07-16 19:33     ` Markus Wichmann
2023-07-16 21:13       ` Robert Clausecker [this message]
2023-07-17 16:22         ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto

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