From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from second.openwall.net (second.openwall.net [193.110.157.125]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ACBDF221EE for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 16:31:21 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 1060 invoked by uid 550); 8 Mar 2024 15:27:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-ID: Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com Received: (qmail 1025 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2024 15:27:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=s31663417; t=1709911864; x=1710516664; i=nullplan@gmx.net; bh=sUjhTy7PsXA2VvW02q7wJCl3tgPqJdIJ0P6WaMfRCnU=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References: In-Reply-To; b=mrmut/lK7erB9h/rIZfdftGGVTEtIsMDsJQy7D57m9LrqRj83RkiK1h6oko+4sdM cU7uZz5zetjlszpyAmOByeeCA0hJJhkUPZbBbYVkRkd1nsJ5qtOXhAibjF5v+E1gj rl8k0RLA+UZ30VXlU5rbT74jtPiLGDJdGnsXeIKMMcPsA558wdEaGxm9xcNA1P8e+ uxVx1cVxlSkNjd2RRKvq056ZB7RR4YJR87+rzpsqDY+54CzA/7q1cyPJbGnmYBQr5 0fzXoqtN93NMIHzM5KYXbqi9kxtvGPrzIjOVRWzGSEO1JWRusQXJ2s3X+7XpJWpdj coAj2TiKUdBfjBnvoA== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 16:31:02 +0100 From: Markus Wichmann To: musl@lists.openwall.com Cc: David Schinazi Message-ID: References: <20240306161544.GH4163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:s4NHdVXYq0Gjx7YPy8ZWKta7yQRGzdmnSys2bQB0xMyzjFMxWxT roH1/1bk71GlUXrlp4btVzLDBhr9Ws+xR9gEsoVnBLl/s8UihJ4Tj48lkRNjPheQM+7UHMm FUontjteTdmYpIqKPBekUxtmRl/GPiw7hAplbrcz2g28xj0CAKcn8TRY9x7UkJpwdRzSVd1 gnoIQoJvJk2pwbfT1PgTQ== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:DKO5XnoMxW8=;+/rUdfKQD4kN+bmwVKVgvkTE66n RwE6wzA8MGmos6tyPcWXhrY8Z0L3Vvk5Xw2HrU2dsxjkUCCTSerZ8MuS4vX1m4hpdIHfGRxF3 GAoEUrLErgq8BhukQ4oo7PrsqFhedq2xiqwECi2Upa1aPm0EBZ4iVIeAFCLPQKUjfZotrPDsm QQqCD/HGThl8/NevVnLgjjL/JbrouuZNhSmcTQnTcqRxMA78hikZlLqgGqSPUwRSeldwOjc00 qNu8HswaJT6J/+vhScvvmu3DRqGiVZVSmHqSpXycVbQW7Cw4hEy9mk3mJe363DHp2hTDER5fQ ffmaK1wGSb+kjVhwVTrSIDsq8UlAmpDDEbDal6AcbQo9RNZu6W8ruvobVW8nIWKgp5KoL5sz1 VC8FKskShiVl+0czsiP2ve40tvO8kEenamSFK5PPSWo4+W6Edq301uok0/9YeYkmfrVx6+Rxh RwJje7v33HoO4eivq7CgjqEkBdk+mAu742Xoih2lXAQm5Lz5oMHV1rpfhb/ENC51j6wy8AsYf bgd26PdD/kc024A49+Z0E3Ff0i/typ1/DiHzlHMzAkfu9OqP2GP3NACNshHGqvPkaWZnTpekV QprOaW4Q2CMOiXztUwnHfCjkQU5pnkcLtfQWN16Mj2DV/tj7V919o0ZWIm0ceN46OvfXPV7/0 rOJD90MawD7LXsf+WLoI1n58Xsxz3LLO8et2+ptZj2iM8d6PcRSfena4ykLYqTC37BKusGROi RwXUtVGkRjDjSIm+/LOW7sSMR4mS/C6JRUI0x5phS0jo+g8vLpwsC+/VVItIK/I0IdaMQdwZc h4kOPnwNEkgRZQNTSdJjK1fup8lu9o6tO7+H+pmJQDFuc= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [musl] mDNS in musl Am Wed, Mar 06, 2024 at 04:17:44PM -0800 schrieb David Schinazi: > I'm definitely supportive of the slippery slope argument, but I think > there's still a real line between mDNS and NetBIOS. mDNS uses a differen= t > transport but lives inside the DNS namespace, whereas NetBIOS is really = its > own thing - NetBIOS names aren't valid DNS hostnames. > One thing that came to me after thinking about it: This really puts a wrenchs in the works of the "just proxy it" argument. Not for mDNS, but more generally for further possible backends for the list of hosts. If you want to support a backend that supports names that DNS can't, then proxying isn't a solution. We may have to look into integrating nscd support into the search for host names. We already have it for passwd queries, after all. And then of course there are all the attendant questions: - Do we query nscd always or only with some config option? - Do we query nscd after DNS or vice-versa? Is this not a policy question? - Is nscd failure authoritative? &c., &c. Ciao, Markus