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From: Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Resuming work on new semaphore
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 10:42:16 +0300 (MSK)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.11.1504021036070.31632@monopod.intra.ispras.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150402013006.GA1108@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On Wed, 1 Apr 2015, Rich Felker wrote:
> If just waiting, the negative semaphore value persists after the
> waiter is killed. Subsequent posts will produce a wake for a waiter
> that doesn't exist, and will thereby allow future waiters that arrive
> when the semaphore value is zero to proceed immediately (leaving the
> value negative) by consuming this wake. There are usage patterns where
> trywait would never succeed again, but wait would succeed trivially.

Interesting.  To examine the issue under a different light, consider that from
the perspective of semaphore implementation, waiters that were killed,
stopped, or pre-empted forever in the middle of sem_wait are
indistinguishable.  Thus, subsequent sem_wait succeeds by effectively stealing
a post, and to make things consistent you can teach sem_trywait to steal posts
too (i.e. try atomic-decrement-if-positive val[1] just before returning
EAGAIN, return 0 if that succeeds).

Alexander


  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-02  7:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-02  1:30 Rich Felker
2015-04-02  7:42 ` Alexander Monakov [this message]
2015-04-02 15:26   ` Rich Felker
2015-04-02 21:39     ` Alexander Monakov
2015-04-02 23:14       ` Rich Felker
2015-04-05 14:07         ` Alexander Monakov
2015-04-05 14:17           ` Alexander Monakov
2015-04-05 19:02             ` Rich Felker
2015-04-05 20:03               ` Alexander Monakov
2015-04-05 20:23                 ` Rich Felker
2015-04-05 21:07                   ` Alexander Monakov
2015-04-11 22:22                     ` Alexander Monakov
2015-04-23 16:06                       ` Rich Felker
2015-04-23 18:24                         ` Alexander Monakov
2015-04-23 20:01                           ` Alexander Monakov
2015-04-24  2:46                             ` Rich Felker
2015-04-24 10:23                               ` Alexander Monakov
2015-04-24 15:03                                 ` Rich Felker
2015-04-24 15:47                                 ` Alexander Monakov
2015-04-24 15:59                                   ` Rich Felker

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