From: Damian McGuckin <damianm@esi.com.au>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Cc: Shane Seelig <stseelig@mail.com>
Subject: Re: x87 asin and acos
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2019 13:53:31 +1100 (AEDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1902241254030.6973@key0.esi.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190223195702.GN23599@brightrain.aerifal.cx>
On Sat, 23 Feb 2019, Rich Felker wrote:
>> They don't seem to be numerically equal. For example, if x is smaller
>> than sqrt(LDBL_EPSILON/2), 1-x**2 is 1, but (1-x)*(1+x) is not.
>> don't recall the process of writing the function in detail, but I'm
>> pretty sure this matters to the result, especially since sqrt then
>> expands the magnitude of the error.
>
> After some discussion on irc, I think the above may be wrong.
Yes and no.
Interestingly, if you to look at double (or float) for now
1 - x**2 == 1 if |x| < sqrt(DBL_EPSILON/2)
whereas
(1 - x) is not 1 nor is (1 + x)
although interesting, to the precision (a
(1 - x) * (1 + x) == 1 if DBL_EPSILON/2 < |x| < sqrt(DBL_EPSILON/2)
But at |x| == DBL_EPSILON/2 (== the round bit)
(1 + x) == 1 but (1 - x) != 1 and so
(1 + x) * (1 - x) != 1
because DBL_EPSILON/2 affects the round bit. That said
sqrt((1 - x) * (1 + x)) = 1 + 0.5 * x == 1
because (DBL_EPSILON/2) * 0.5 is half the round bit and does not affect
it. So, the formula does not affect the result of the sqrt().
The same happens for floats.
I think the same can be said for long double.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-24 2:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-23 14:21 Shane Seelig
2019-02-23 15:08 ` Rich Felker
2019-02-23 19:57 ` Rich Felker
2019-02-24 2:53 ` Damian McGuckin [this message]
2019-02-23 20:30 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-02-23 20:36 ` Szabolcs Nagy
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