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From: Damian McGuckin <damianm@esi.com.au>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Cc: Morten Welinder <mwelinder@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [musl] catan(z)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 11:47:03 +1000 (AEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c2e8be32-74cf-082-5433-b37ae76fdd12@esi.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240815134415.GO10433@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On Thu, 15 Aug 2024, Rich Felker wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 09:18:19AM -0400, Morten Welinder wrote:
>> atan2 definitely isn't supposed to always output rational numbers on
>> rational input.
>>
>> atan2(+0,-1) is Pi.
>> atan2(-0,-1) is -Pi
>> atan2(1,1) is Pi/4 -- clearly not a rational number.
>>
>> These aren't exactly rational results (unless you mean their
>> floating-point approximations).
>
> The way I read it, the claim was not that the exact mathematical value
> of atan2 for some argument is rational, but that the floating point
> number returned by the C function is necessarily rational (because all
> floating point numbers are diadic rationals) and thus never actually
> equal to ?pi. This means you don't have any issue with whatever
> happens exactly at the endpoints.

Precisely. Sorry if I was unclear Morten.

Actually, I think we need to ensure we use a value of Pi above which is 
rounded towards zero (rather than one rounded to nearest tied to even) so 
that it never lies outside the exact range of [-PI,+PI] where PI in this 
case is an irrational number that we cannot represent with an IEEE 754 
floating point number.

If we can enhance catan(z) to explicitly handle the special cases of Annex 
G of the C standard, some of this discussion becomes a lot simpler. But 
at the time he wrote this routine, Moshier did not have the luxury of a
standard to consult.

- Damian

      reply	other threads:[~2024-08-16  1:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-11 14:01 Damian McGuckin
2024-08-11 20:08 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-08-12  3:39   ` Damian McGuckin
2024-08-12  3:56     ` Damian McGuckin
2024-08-12  9:00       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-08-15  1:16         ` Rich Felker
2024-08-15  2:12           ` Damian McGuckin
2024-08-15 14:28             ` Rich Felker
2024-08-16  7:26               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2024-08-16  8:18               ` Eric Pruitt
2024-08-15 13:18       ` Morten Welinder
2024-08-15 13:44         ` Rich Felker
2024-08-16  1:47           ` Damian McGuckin [this message]

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