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From: "Laurent Bercot" <ska-dietlibc@skarnet.org>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] remaining steps for time64 switchover
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 08:32:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <em03b56343-11cd-4d6b-b7f4-400c15d94f5e@elzian> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191027042645.GX16318@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

>Or here. So, the story on utmpx: we can either
>
>1. match the current size on 32-bit archs, but move the timeval to
>    unused space at the end where a time64 version fits, or
>
>2. match the current size and layout of the 64-bit struct, making it
>    possible to share records between 32- and 64-bit processes on the
>    same machine.
>
>Keep in mind that this struct is not used anywhere in libc presently,
>but normally it's used as a format for on-disk records.
>
>I'm kinda leaning towards option 2, but being that I don't use (and
>hate) utmp, I'd rather hear opinions from people who do use it. Either
>way time fields in existing data will break, so it's a question of
>whether that one-time breakage is already sufficient to go a bit
>further and get 32/64 compat afterwards.

I don't use the libc's utmpx, but I maintain utmps, which is a secure 
implementation of utmp, including the definition of struct utmpx.
I haven't been following the time64 thing closely. The current struct
utmpx definition includes a struct timeval. Will it need to change,
or will musl's struct timeval change be enough and naturally propagate
so the struct utmpx will become time64-compatible?

On-disk data is not a problem. On the distro that I know uses utmps
(Adélie), the utmp/wtmp records, by design, do not survive a reboot,
so a reboot will fix everything - and will be mandatory anyway on
arches where the musl ABI changes.

I'm not aware of any distribution that uses musl, doesn't use utmps,
and still keeps on-disk utmpx records.

--
Laurent



  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-27  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-21  2:46 Rich Felker
2019-10-21 12:43 ` Rich Felker
2019-10-27  4:15   ` Rich Felker
2019-10-27  4:26 ` Rich Felker
2019-10-27  8:32   ` Laurent Bercot [this message]
2019-10-27 14:53     ` Rich Felker
2019-10-27 20:12     ` Matias Fonzo
2019-10-27 21:14       ` Rich Felker
2019-10-27 21:53         ` Matias Fonzo
2019-10-27 23:27           ` Laurent Bercot
2019-10-28 21:31             ` Matias Fonzo
2019-10-28 22:22   ` Rich Felker
2019-10-29 19:52 ` Rich Felker
2019-10-29 19:53   ` Rich Felker
2019-10-29 23:08 ` Rich Felker

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