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From: Ariadne Conill <ariadne@dereferenced.org>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Cc: Szabolcs Nagy <nsz@port70.net>
Subject: Re: [musl] [PATCH #2] Properly simplified nextafter()
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 10:52:13 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f3384ff0-67e6-f6cd-d4d-6b6b48658ec5@dereferenced.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1F3569BD7D6E45889B7518DC9BE5004B@H270>

Hi,

On Sun, 15 Aug 2021, Stefan Kanthak wrote:

> Szabolcs Nagy <nsz@port70.net> wrote:
>
>> * Stefan Kanthak <stefan.kanthak@nexgo.de> [2021-08-15 09:04:55 +0200]:
>>> Szabolcs Nagy <nsz@port70.net> wrote:
>>>> you should benchmark, but the second best is to look
>>>> at the longest dependency chain in the hot path and
>>>> add up the instruction latencies.
>>>
>>> 1 billion calls to nextafter(), with random from, and to either 0 or +INF:
>>> run 1 against glibc,                         8.58 ns/call
>>> run 2 against musl original,                 3.59
>>> run 3 against musl patched,                  0.52
>>> run 4 the pure floating-point variant from   0.72
>>>       my initial post in this thread,
>>> run 5 the assembly variant I posted.         0.28 ns/call
>>
>> thanks for the numbers. it's not the best measurment
>
> IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, PERFORM YOUR OWN MEASUREMENT!
>
>> but shows some interesting effects.
>
> It clearly shows that musl's current implementation SUCKS, at least
> on AMD64.

I would rather have an implementation that is 3.59 ns/call and is 
maintained by somebody who is actually pleasant to talk to.  In the grand 
scheme of things 3.59 ns/call, and even 8.58 ns/call are not a big deal 
for a function like nextafter().

If musl does wind up merging this, I intend to revert that merge in Alpine 
because I cannot trust the correctness of any code written by somebody 
with this attitude.

Ariadne

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-08-15 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-10  6:23 [musl] [PATCH] " Stefan Kanthak
2021-08-10 21:34 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-08-10 22:53   ` Stefan Kanthak
2021-08-11  2:40     ` Rich Felker
2021-08-11 15:44       ` Stefan Kanthak
2021-08-11 16:09         ` Rich Felker
2021-08-11 16:50           ` Stefan Kanthak
2021-08-11 17:57             ` Rich Felker
2021-08-11 22:16               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-08-11 22:43                 ` Stefan Kanthak
2021-08-12  0:59                   ` Rich Felker
2021-08-11  8:23     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-08-13 12:04   ` [musl] [PATCH #2] " Stefan Kanthak
2021-08-13 15:59     ` Rich Felker
2021-08-13 18:30       ` Stefan Kanthak
2021-08-14  4:07         ` Damian McGuckin
2021-08-14 22:45           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-08-14 23:46     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-08-15  7:04       ` Stefan Kanthak
2021-08-15  7:46         ` Ariadne Conill
2021-08-15 13:59           ` Rich Felker
2021-08-15 14:57             ` Ariadne Conill
2021-08-15  8:24         ` Damian McGuckin
2021-08-15 14:03           ` Rich Felker
2021-08-15 15:10             ` Damian McGuckin
2021-08-15 14:56         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-08-15 15:19           ` Stefan Kanthak
2021-08-15 15:48             ` Rich Felker
2021-08-15 16:29               ` Stefan Kanthak
2021-08-15 16:49                 ` Rich Felker
2021-08-15 20:52                   ` Stefan Kanthak
2021-08-15 21:48                     ` Rich Felker
2021-08-15 15:52             ` Ariadne Conill [this message]
2021-08-15 16:09               ` Rich Felker

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