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From: Paul Zimmermann <Paul.Zimmermann@inria.fr>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: [musl] Re: integration of CORE-MATH routines into Musl?
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2022 11:09:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mw5yi2chn3.fsf@tomate.loria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220902121755.GS7074@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (message from Rich Felker on Fri, 2 Sep 2022 08:17:56 -0400)

       Dear Rich,

> Could you summaraize briefly what you have in mind, and what tradeoffs
> might be? Are these intended to be drop-in replacements for the
> existing standard functions, or implementations for the "cr" versions
> thereof? I have not followed closely the "mandatory requirement of
> correct rounding for mathematical functions in the next revision of
> the IEEE-754 standard" topic and how it relates to the future of C,
> but my vague recollection was that the direction folks were leaning
> was towards a separate set of cr*() functions or something.

the current situation is:

- IEEE 754 does not require correct rounding for mathematical functions

- indeed, the C2X standard will reserve cr_xxx names for correctly rounded
  functions

- thus mathematical libraries will have essentially 3 choices:

0) either provide incorrectly rounded functions as (say) exp.
   This is the current situation.

1) provide incorrectly rounded functions as exp, and correctly rounded
   functions as cr_exp.

2) or provide only exp, with correct rounding (then cr_exp could be an alias
   for exp)

It seems that LLVM-libc will go for 2), I have no news from other libraries.

> But if
> it's possible to do correct rounding in a way that's all-wins
> (performance, size, quality of results) or nearly all wins (maybe
> slightly larger?), at least for select functions, that seems very
> interesting.

If you look at Table II from https://hal.inria.fr/hal-03721525, you see that
for *single* precision functions (binary32), indeed that's all-wins.

Best regards,
Paul


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-09-05  9:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mwv8q6ccj9.fsf@tomate.loria.fr>
2022-09-02 12:17 ` Rich Felker
2022-09-02 19:28   ` enh
2022-09-02 20:40     ` enh
2022-09-05  9:09   ` Paul Zimmermann [this message]
2022-09-05 13:08     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-09-05 14:39       ` Paul Zimmermann
2022-09-05 16:38         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-09-06 23:40     ` enh

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